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Time to break free of traditional political ideological labeling and divisions. Time to abandon old, divisive sociopolitical labels like "liberal" and "conservative".

A new political party based on a vastly, commonly held virtures lends itself to embrace over 66% of Americans, and it clearly embraces progressive principled thinking. In the most ideal American sense of unity, a political party should not be able to be defined or placed as "to the left" or "to the right" of where the Democratic or Republican parties currently are. Just let it exist organically based on present-day principled thinking. The American Progressive Majority.


Originally Posted By u/Atlanticbboy At 2025-03-23 04:38:18 AM | Source


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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You already are.

That's how insurance works.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml -5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That’s not how it always works though, people who smoke have higher premiums for example.

People who choose to skydive are not eligible for life insurance.

People who crash their cars yearly pay more than safe drivers.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

People who don't claim absolutely do subsidise people who do. Where do you think the money goes?

People who smoke pay more in taxes, because cigarettes are heavily taxed. Similar story for people who drink a lot of alcohol and the like.

And why apply this mentality to healthcare and not other things? Assuming you're a high earner, you'll pay for roads that other don't, for education, for the military, police, fire brigade, etc. Should all of this stuff only be accessible to people if they pay for it directly? How would that even work?

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml -4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

You completely disregarded my point where most insurances price premiums depending on risk; which Medicare does not, besides maybe cigarets.

Education, police and firefighters should be accessible for all; and obviously abusers should be punished, as in people who burn their house on purpose.

There’s a strain on healthcare resources that is avoidable if people would just eat a bit healthier and exercise a bit more.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

You completely disregarded my point where most insurances price premiums depending on risk; which Medicare does not, besides maybe cigarets.

No I didn't.

Risk is already somewhat baked into tax-funded healthcare by way of harmful things being taxed more. Like I said.

Education, police and firefighters should be accessible for all

Maybe I'm just too NHS-brained, but I think it's insane that you don't think the same should be true for healthcare. Like I genuinely cannot get my head around believing healthcare should not be a right, and that some people should suffer. I'm not trying to be a dick when I say that, it's just truly mind-breaking to me. It does not compute.

and obviously abusers should be punished, as in people who burn their house on purpose.

They are. As stated, the "punishment" for people who do things like smoke or drink themselves into poor health is paying more into the system via taxes, just like with insurance premiums being higher in the US.

There’s a strain on healthcare resources that is avoidable if people would just eat a bit healthier and exercise a bit more.

Obviously. But there's a strain on that regardless of being private or public healthcare.

Again, if you are young and healthy, your insurance contributions pay for others. That money doesn't go to you, it goes disproportionately to people with unhealthy lifestyles and the elderly. You are already paying for people that make poor health choices.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

I don’t think unhealthy food is taxed more than healthy food in the US.

With a universal publicly funded healthcare system, it’s only fair to reward people who are healthy and entice people who are not to make healthier choices.

[–] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe if you don't need to spend so much in healthcare you can spend a little more in better food.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

Subsidizing healthier food options and encouraging people to exercise can be a start.