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[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I am still willing to give my life for what I believe this country stands for. This country stands, and right now those values are st odds with some people and policy's within this countrys government, and part of what this country stands for is standing agianst tyranny, agianst threats, foreign and domestic. No person is above this cardinal rule. We usurped tyrannical rule once before, we will surely do so agian.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Luigi is the only example of someone who followed through though.

[–] Master@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

The guy who tried to shoot trump before the election counts too.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your sense of history is brutally stunted.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

You gonna celebrate some slavers fighting to keep their slaves?

At least they died for what the state actually stands for.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 hour ago

I apologize if the way I posted that link seemed overly celebratory.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Last time was when the 5th largest city by population was a hill in New Jersey over a winter huh?

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This country stands, and right now those values

Which values? Colonialism? Genocide? White supremacy? Enslavement of the global south? Anticommunism? Burgers?

part of what this country stands for is standing agianst tyranny

Bull.shit. I'm Spanish. Go ahead and tell my murdered ancestors during fascism how glad they are that the US had perfect relationships with Franco. Go ask people in Chile what they think of Pinochet and his US-Sponsored fascist coup. Or go ask the progressive leaders of the middle east like Mosaddegh, who were eliminated from power through destabilisation. And that's fucking nothing compared with what the people of Vietnam, Laos or Korea endured during the most intensive bombing campaigns in human history (Laos was bombed by the US with more explosives than the entire explosives used in WW2). Your country IS THE TYRANT, it doesn't stand against tyranny.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Hope. The US has historically been a rough country for almost everyone. It has also historically been "the land of opportunities." The fact that once again, as in the gilded age, our "leaders" have forgotten the one redeeming quality of our broken old democracy, has once again extinguished the idea of hope.

As Churchill once said, "you can trust that the Americans will eventually do the right thing. They'll just try everything else first." The fact that we don't think that is at all true, isn't good for anyone.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

Stop your weird nationalism: the US is a colonial empire as are most western European countries. Accept it, and move on, you're being an american exceptionalist right now, which is a racist position.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

does it stand against tyranny and stuff?

I feel like it never has, except by accident when it was defending it's colonial possessions or intended colonial possessions.

we, you and I and whoever the fuck else; we could give it a shot. you wanna?

[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I suppose emphasis on what I believe it stands for. The U.S.'s grey history date back to the pilgrims, but at times the people have rallied to fight agianst tyranny and I believe we can and will do so agian. I want to believe this country stands for freedom and stands agianst tyranny, and that we, the people will fight for this.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

...grey? the first white guy in several centuries to land here was such a fucking monster with all the slavery and rape, he made nobotsuke kishi look like a competent benevolent administrator.

fuck the country. why do we need it? what do you stand for? what do the people you know stand for? why stop at the border?

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago

The only thing grey about the history of the US is the fact that they pretend to be about freedom (for white male landowners). It's all black to this very moment.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 7 points 1 day ago

I was never willing to give my life for anything and that's still true.