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Democratic divisions intensified as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Nancy Pelosi sharply criticized Chuck Schumer for supporting a Republican-led funding bill to avoid a government shutdown.

AOC called Schumer's decision a "betrayal," urging Senate Democrats to reject the legislation backed by Trump and Elon Musk. Pelosi called the bill a "devastating assault" on working families.

Schumer defended his stance, arguing a shutdown would empower Trump and Musk further.

The controversy sparked suggestions among Democrats that AOC might challenge Schumer in a primary.

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[–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I don't understand why people are so fucking thick to not understand this. If we're so lucky to have a fair and free election in 2028, we can't risk global stability to prove the DNC wrong by relying on a notoriously racist and misogynistic population of voters to choose a female person of color. Despite being one of the most qualified and intelligent members of congress, an AOC ticket is doomed to fail by her demonization by mainstream media and social media manipulation and propaganda.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This kind of electability politics is exactly what gets us one feckless candidate after another. We're too scared to support all we actually believe in, and we end up with candidates that can't rally popular support.

[–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Listen to the fucking poll results. Good god. Joe Biden was even more milquetoast than Harris and he garnered 9 million more votes. Harris is left of Biden. That's a fact. So the only reasonable explanation is that either Harris didn't have enough campaign time (I think a few months is plenty) or older voting Americans don't want to vote for a woman/POC.

By your logic, since she's more left leaning than Joe, she should have been able to garner more popular support but that didn't happen. 16+ years down the road if Dems can hold the office for that long AND have shored up protections for social programs AND removed blanket immunity from the executive branch, I have absolutely no problem with AOC. But until they're able to gain a more stable foothold in the current political climate, you're just going prematurely kill their one shot at a presidential run. That's all you typically get is one chance. If Trump loses in 2016, he doesn't come back in 20 and 24.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

DNC centrism was a loser in 2016, 2020, and 2024. 2020 was the outlier. Biden managed to squeak out a victory due to covid. And even then, he had to borrow a bunch of ideas from Bernie to win the election. DNC centrism was a loser in 2008 and 2012 as well. Obama usurped the DNC and won in spite of them; they supported Hillary in 2008.

Kamala ran to the right of Biden. Yes, in her past she supported some left wing things, but she abandoned all those positions when she ran in 2024.

I don't recall Biden campaigning with Dick Cheney.

The centrist, soulless, govern-by-focus-group strategy has been a loser since 2008. Nearly 20 years at this point. But here people like you are, still with your head in the sand denying reality.

Kamala ran to the right of Biden. Yes, in her past she supported some left wing things, but she abandoned all those positions when she ran in 2024.

What policies specifically did she run to the right of Biden? I'm curious.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

I don’t understand why people are so fucking thick to not understand this. If we’re so lucky to have a fair and free election in 2028, we can’t risk global stability to prove the DNC wrong by relying on a notoriously racist and misogynistic population of voters to choose a female person of color.

Limiting all women because the party wants to shut out one woman. Democrats smeared Sanders for allegedly saying what you just said.

[–] Devmapall@lemm.ee 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah it sucks but it's the truth. I live by Chicago and a shocking amount of people I interact with drop racist or misogynistic comments without a thought around me because I'm a white guy.

Most comments I've heard about AOC are either who or that she's dumb. I've asked two people why she's dumb and they couldn't give me a solid reason.

Anyway I guess my point is anecdotally this lines up with a lot of interactions I've had in the last few years

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

its the same answers they gave about harris: "i dont like her, she is not smart, or discussed her policies. its pure sexism." from poc R voters