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Democratic divisions intensified as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Nancy Pelosi sharply criticized Chuck Schumer for supporting a Republican-led funding bill to avoid a government shutdown.

AOC called Schumer's decision a "betrayal," urging Senate Democrats to reject the legislation backed by Trump and Elon Musk. Pelosi called the bill a "devastating assault" on working families.

Schumer defended his stance, arguing a shutdown would empower Trump and Musk further.

The controversy sparked suggestions among Democrats that AOC might challenge Schumer in a primary.

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[–] spacequetzal@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We can't pander to the worst of us.

You'd be shocked at how well people respond to someone genuine like AOC, especially because voters on all sides recognize her name and her spirit, especially because she makes healthcare access & relief her focus.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

You have to be pragmatic, though. There's a time and place to push for progress, and this isn't either. You need to stop the house from burning down before you can renovate it.

If 2028 even happens, it'll be a fight to reclaim the country. That means the person with the best chance of winning needs to run. AOC is not that person this year.

You have to remember that the vast majority citizens aren't anywhere near as informed on anything related to politics as the people here are. This is by design thanks to mass media. You have to field a person that appeals to the most people, and a Hispanic woman doesn't do that.

It's really fucking stupid that things are this way, but people are really fucking stupid. Tim Waltz is a very likable old white man, and that's what will win an election.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You have to be pragmatic, though.

The false pragmatism of timid complicity got us here.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's not timid complacency to acknowledge that the country is sexist. Half the country doesn't even see them as people. I'd say the same thing if we were talking about an openly LGBTQ+ person too.

We need someone who isn't an insane fascist and has a long track record of trying to make things better. That's step one. After that, we can focus on step 2.

AOC being the VP pick will help the country shift more towards being ready for a female president, because she would be way more active than Harris was.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We need someone who isn’t an insane fascist and has a long track record of trying to make things better. That’s step one. After that, we can focus on step 2.

We did that in 2020. Turns out, step 2 is "move to the right and support genocide."

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Lol, Biden doesn't have a long track record of trying to make things better.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yes but we're not talking about someone genuine like her, we're talking about her, specifically. I would love to see her win, but she's been heavily demonized by right wing media.

"We can't pander to the worst of us." is a righteous idea, but it's not tactically wise. Elections are a popularity contest, if you don't approach them as such you will likely lose. It very obviously doesn't matter how qualified a candidate is, it all boils down to pandering to enough demographics to win.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

but it's not tactically wise.

No but it is strategically disasterous to pre-emptively hamstring your best most popular leaders skilled at inspiring people for bullshit pre-emptive handwringing about things conservatives will do to anybody no matter who it is.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

But we're not talking about doing that. We're just using our eyes and brains to take note of the pertinent information. And yes, pandering.