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It looks like this is probably an open question in the Constitution. The Supreme Court has, in the past, avoided ruling on the matter.
My understanding is that US border control has generally had pretty broad leeway in terms of disallowing people who are not US citizens into the US. There hasn't been a Supreme Court case that has stated that First Amendment protections mean that a non-citizens' speech can be used as grounds for entry or presence in the US.
https://www.freedomforum.org/non-citizens-protected-first-amendment/
The US Executive Branch effectively prohibits naturalization to Communists, despite the fact that there is First Amendment protection for an American citizen who wants to advocate for such. The way this works is that they ask someone if they've been part of a Communist Party. If so, they can prohibit naturalization. If the answer is "no"
and not true
then naturalization can later be revoked as having been obtained on fraudulent grounds.
https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-f-chapter-3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yates_v._United_States
SCOTUS has ruled that the Executive Branch may not constitutionally prohibit a citizen who is a member of a Communist party from traveling abroad:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptheker_v._Secretary_of_State
But the question of whether the First Amendment protection applies to speech used as a criteria for non-citizen entry to the US apparently hasn't really been resolved:
https://www.nyclu.org/commentary/column-terrorism-international-border-and-first-amendment-new-york-law-journal
IMO you're overthinking it.
The Constitution applies to all people within jurisdiction of the United States. Immigration or citizenship status isn't a factor; he absolutely has a first amendment right to say what he said.
The question you're struggling with is regarding people who aren't already within the jurisdiction, or are applying for citizenship.
All of that said, if ICE already deported him then that complicates things. Normally somebody who's been deported will be denied reentry for that reason alone; there's a waiting period (5 years iirc) if they're ever going to be allowed back in at all. But you're correct that they could also deny him reentry for his political views. It's likely that, if he's already out of the country, legally removed or not, a judge will have to order him to be allowed reentry despite both of this things.
I don't think that the critical division here is over admissability versus deportability.
https://reason.com/2025/03/10/is-it-constitutional-to-deport-immigrants-for-political-speech/
The issue is that the criteria that the Executive Branch may use for deportation are not fully-defined in the Constitution or (yet) in case law.
Bullshit. If there was an exception to the First Amendment for that, it would've been written into it!
Huh. TIL.
I guess this is exactly what the judicial branch was created for. We've got an undefined area of legality, somebody's got to sort it out, and until they do we just can't say for sure one way or the other
Speech can be used in deciding the fitness for someone to immigrate, but he's a green card holder, so already well past that. There's wide leeway in the criteria for accepting new foreigners, but once you're here legally you have first amendment protections.
I have read conflicting sources on his citizenship. Some have said he's a naturalized citizen, and if that is the case why wouldn't the first amendment apply to him? How can anyone be secure in their status as a citizen if it can be revoked for reasons that only apply to non-citizens?
1A rights apply to all
They absolutely should!!
No "should" needed. The first amendment doesn't say "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech of citizens", it says shall make no law period.
Constitutional rights are based on personhood, not citizenship. Mahmoud Khalil's 1A rights were violated, plain simple.
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C18-8-7-2/ALDE_00001262/
I'm sure that he's not. It's established case law that (a) US citizen cannot be denied entry to the US and (b) that a legitimately-granted citizenship cannot subsequently be constitutionally revoked by the government; revocation must be voluntary. Like, this wouldn't be an argument were it not.
kagis
https://time.com/7266683/mahmoud-khalil-columbia-green-card/
Yeah. If you have a green card, you're on the path to citizenship...but you do not yet have citizenship.
EDIT: WRT my above statement:
SCOTUS ruling that involuntary removal of citizenship is unconstitutional: Afroyim v. Rusk.
His wife is a citizen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Khalil_(activist)
However, SCOTUS has ruled that the right of a US citizen to enter the United States does not extend to a non-citizen spouse:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-says-u-s-citizens-don-t-have-right-to-bring-noncitizen-spouses-to-u-s/ar-BB1oFzGW
Thank you for finding a better source than whatever my search engine was throwing at me. It didn't make any sense that they'd start with someone granted citizenship, and all the sense that they're going to make an example out of an immigrant still seeking citizenship.
No problem. I should add that immigration law is complicated as all hell, and sometimes very unintuitive, and the situation has changed over the years. And I'm not an immigration lawyer, so I'm just giving my best layman's understanding from what past case law and history I've read.
I'd also reiterate that it's not as if SCOTUS has said "the First Amendment doesn't protect the guy" against deportation for his speech. It just hasn't ruled that it does: there's been no ruling to define the scope of the Constitution on the matter that I'm aware of.
I'd also bet that there are a lot of wrinkles there. The rationale that the Executive Branch has used in the past to justify use of speech as a filter for permitting entry to the US is "national security". But I think
without looking into the matter
that it's likely difficult to characterize the guy as a threat to US national security. Israel's national security, maybe. But the US's? I think that that's a harder case to make. So...I'm not actually sure that even if SCOTUS takes a case and rules that you can use speech as a criteria for disallowing entry for non-citizens to the US on national security grounds, that it'd agree with the Executive Branch on this guy being deportable.