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[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 43 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Not yet, we still have hope it won't happen.

Our system is a bit different. We elect a party and that party has a leader. The leader of the elected party is the Prime Minister. The leader can step down and the party stays in power and selects a new leader, who then becomes Prime Minister. Trudeau stepped down and his party selected Carney to replace him, so we have a new prime minister and maintain a centrist government. (Centrist to us, left wing to the US.)

We can also have elections at any time, either by choice of the party in power, or forced by the opposition parties if they have enough seats in the government. Our current party in power, The Liberals, don't have a majority, so they've been maintaining power by making deals with a left wing party (the NDP or New Democratic Party). Liberal + NDP is one seat or so from a majority right now, so they've been finding additional support from other parties. This has actually worked out pretty well, as it has forced the government to be a little more proactive and given the left a good amount of power. There is always the threat of losing power and having to make different parties happy.

If the NDP (or others) decide they don't like Carney, they can force an election and then we will have the chance of getting that Conservative government you were worried about. Most likely they will wait a bit to see how things are going before doing that because their worst fear is forcing an election and ending up in a worse position (a Conservative majority.) If you hear that Canada has a new Prime Minister named Poilievre in the next year, you'll know we just ran into the same shit you guys did.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

The leader can step down and the party stays in power and selects a new leader, who then becomes Prime Minister. Trudeau stepped down and his party selected Carney to replace him

Just to clarify further, the party did not select him. Liberal voters voted for Carney at an overwhelming majority.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 17 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Thanks for explaining that. It sounds like a better system in that you can force an election at any time. I'm jealous of that right now.

I know the PR and propaganda machines have been going after Canada. I really hope you guys don't get forced or go willingly down the same road as us. I'll be looking for that Poilievre person to not be in the running.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

you can force an election at any time.

Thing is, a government with a majority will often easily win a no-confidence kind of challenge. Especially true of conservatives, whose core strength is blind loyalty, there's no point in trying.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You can force an election for a minority government. If one party has a majority, it can go for a while, more then four years

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Okay, I'm not jealous of the 4 year part unless it has some hidden benefit. Maybe moving that slow keeps it stable?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Maybe moving that slow keeps it stable?

That's not how long it takes. We have regional non-conservatives in power here, and they seem to be launching spurious confidence challenges every week. I think their plan is to have so many that people stop showing up and supporting the evil non-cons.

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

It wouldn't be a problem if we had proportional representation. In Canada, a party can get a majority government with a minority of the voting population due to how it's calculated. This often means low voter turnout because a large number of people feel their vote doesn't count.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

It wouldn’t be a problem if we had proportional representation

Is there nothing it can't do? (when all you have is a hammer, everything's a nail)

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago

So you have the same problem as us. I think in the olden days, our corrupt politicians and elites colluded with the world's corrupt politicians and elites, and had a good laugh how they set it up in their favor.