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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It's not that simple, you need to understand the effects that Hormone Replace Therapy has on the body. Men and trans women physically do not have the same type of body and the studies even shows trans women perform worse than cis women in most areas.

  • Transgender women performed worse than cisgender women in tests measuring lower-body strength.

  • Transgender women performed worse than cisgender women in tests measuring lung function.

  • Transgender women had a higher percentage of fat mass, lower fat-free mass, and weaker handgrip strength compared to cisgender men.

  • Transgender women’s bone density was found to be equivalent to that of cisgender women, which is linked to muscle strength.

  • There were no meaningful differences found between the two groups’ hemoglobin profiles. Hemoglobin (Hb) plays a crucial role in athletic performance by facilitating improved oxygen delivery to muscles. Elite endurance athletes may exhibit up to a 40% higher level of Hb compared to untrained individuals. Moreover, heightened levels of Hb typically correlate with enhanced aerobic performance.

You're allowed to feel however you like, but I need you to understand that it is only a feeling, not something backed by scientific observation of reality. Saying you don't hate anyone is at odds with letting your gut feeling take the side of bias.

[–] Harrinator@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

This is why it's so crucial to never submit to a right wing framing on any issue. I have a goddamn trans brother, and I didn't know about these specific facts at all. I hate the misinformation zeitgeist.

[–] icmpecho@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

this!

it's the most insane thing that I've been on the flip side of this rhetoric coming from that part of the political spectrum as well. when I told my brother I was transitioning (MtF), he freaked out and said I was going to lose muscle mass and all my strength. of course that's part of what estrogen does, and is kinda the point, but I find it silly that they admit it and simultaneously refuse to admit it.

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope I wasn’t coming off as someone who is upset with the existence of trans individuals. I have had trans friends. Who I housed at my home when they were kicked out of their homes. I have helped and been an ally before I knew what an ally was. I saw the mod deleted my comment. But I wasn’t trying to be mean or anything.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well, no. Not exactly. I do think you are using "I have black friends so I can't be racist" sort of logic to not be critical of your original comment. But I never thought you were coming from a place of malice or outright bigotry, just one of ignorance. There is a lot of propaganda around anti-trans legislation, so I truly can't fault you for not understanding the nuance of endocrinology.

Yet having said that, the fact that you and your ex argued about this intensely enough that you split , that you describe her stance as "devout" and that yesterday you saw this thread as an opportunity to bring the story up. Well... it speaks to bias that apparently you still hold. I believe you were not trying to be mean, but when you talk about "the physical differences between men and women" as a way to argue for trans exclusion than you clearly do not understand the community or the issues we face, much less be an ally.

At a certain point, intent or former trans friends just doesn't matter.