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How Trump’s ‘51st State’ Canada Talk Came to Be Seen as Deadly Serious (www.nytimes.com)
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The details of the conversations between the two leaders, and subsequent discussions among top U.S. and Canadian officials, have not been previously fully reported, and were shared with The New York Times on condition of anonymity by four people with firsthand knowledge of their content. They did not want to be publicly identified discussing a sensitive topic.

On those calls, President Trump laid out a long list of grievances he had with the trade relationship between the two countries, including Canada’s protected dairy sector, the difficulty American banks face in doing business in Canada and Canadian consumption taxes that Mr. Trump deems unfair because they make American goods more expensive.

He also brought up something much more fundamental.

He told Mr. Trudeau that he did not believe that the treaty that demarcates the border between the two countries was valid and that he wants to revise the boundary. He offered no further explanation.

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[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

What's the over/under on Canada developing a nuclear deterrent?

It would be interesting to see how that would poll amongst Canadians.

If the threat of annexation is as serious as we are being led to believe (and I think it is), what realistic options do we have in terms of defending our sovereignty? Actuellement, all that stands in the way of Canada's forced accension to statehood or, more likely; territorial vasalisation by an imperialist USA, is the short stroll to Ottawa.

Obviously, developing nuclear weapons while signatory to non-proliferation treaties is a can of worms that I'd hate to see opened, and the mere acknowledgement and/or open development of such weapons could invite serious economic or even a military response.

Is it even possible to develop a nuclear deterrent in secret? Does Canada have the savoir-faire? The technology, the materials, the delivery systems? Do we beg France and the UK to officially declare that they would respond to any armed aggression against Canada?

Wtf do we do? What timeline is this?

Sell our minerals to China in exchange for security guarantees? Fold and allow ourselves to be absorbed into the US?

I can't believe this is where we are. What an anxious time to be a Canadian.