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[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Is china the only other country that makes EVs?

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Right? Why the focus on Chinese EVs? Do no European EVs exist? No Japanese EVs? Why not just open the doors for all EVs, regardless of what country it's from, and then customers can make informed decisions on which EV to get based on whatever criteria they wish? Get the competition going!

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

No, but they're so far ahead of anyone else it's unbelievable.

[–] Bransons404@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No but I think they're the cheapest. It'd be a good start. At this point any alternative would be I guess

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yeah how do you think it's the cheapest? They have the most clever engineering methods or something?

No. It's cheap material, cheap labor, concessions on everything.

[–] Bransons404@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Not saying they're quality made. But cheap EVs would be nice compared to the over inflated car prices today, if they were cheap enough.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

China is a nation of around a billion people, most of whom we would consider middle class, and 22% of the overall fleet is electric, with new car sales being higher. The economies of scale for manufacturing are huge.

[–] Carl@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

No. It’s cheap material, cheap labor, concessions on everything.

Actually the materials and quality are comparable to what you get from Western automakers, the difference in labor price is because Western countries keep their currencies strong in order to import things from countries like China where the currency is weak. Changing that dynamic would threaten the entire system of unequal exchange that benefits Western nations.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah how do you think it's the cheapest? They have the most clever engineering methods or something?

Your comment reads super racist, implying that for some reason China can't possibly have more clever engineering methods. As a matter of fact it does have said methods. The latest technology in battery manufacturing comes from china, and they have the most mature EV industry in the world.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That was not what they said. You sound like a shill

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com -1 points 1 day ago

Yeah how do you think it's the cheapest? They have the most clever engineering methods or something?

How is this not racistly dismissive of the possibilities of Chinese manufacturing (China being the most industrially productive country in the planet)

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

The batteries are good, we can buy the batteries not the whole car.

The cars themselves are built to be a locally sourced and consumed commodity. They don't have the certification to sell in NA. The whole car being cheaper is a reflection of all these things.

Instead of cheap, I could have said less expensive.

[–] uis@lemm.ee -1 points 2 days ago

Wasn't India or other asian country making some?