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A valid and good question that we should talk about. Obviously we need better candidates, standing up against the these rich fucks, and better messaging. We need a good platform we don't back down from, namely, something like building a decent healthcare system.
Binary thinking that absolutely destroys a chance at conversation/progress. The fault is not all on one group. I cannot fucking stand the fact that people need to make it that way. Those who did not vote are incorrigible, and pretending to have certainty of democrats' ability to magically persuade them of anything is ridiculous. Those non voters have to be considered. Just because you cannot make a direct immediate action to force them to do anything doesn't mean we shouldn't acknowledge and consider that their extreme shirking of responsibility is their fault, full stop; insane to contest that. What's more complicated is who is to blame for the election going to trump. You could write a 900 page book on the topic. Y'all want 2 sentences and be done with it.
You don't understand. Whether or not I feel superior to those people isn't what matters. I mean, this is like the toddler shitting its pants being unmentionable because if I do, I'm bragging about being potty trained. We don't need or have to brag about something like that. We have to think about what it takes to get those people to vote, yes, but my other issue people is acting like democrats going "radical" (other people's words, not mine) is a panacea.
There's this tendency to want to blame one group and make every problem simple and it's not helpful. "Oh if democrats would just go more left than most of americans, that will fix everything. those idiots!" is enraging, simplistic, and ignorant. That is the thought process I'm pissed about.
If you believe this, then why do you have such a problem with people calling for the Democrats to move left? This is exactly what we're all asking for and somehow you're offended by it despite claiming to agree with it. I don't understand your position.
The faulty assumption you're making is that most Americans would disapprove of the Democrats going more left, and I can prove it. Here's a list of "lefty" progressive policies that the Democrats have abandoned and their approval ratings:
Medicare for All shows majority support in nearly every poll.
55% support raising the federal minimum wage.
An overwhelming majority support ending citizens united.
59% support the green new deal.
79% support raising taxes on the rich.
These numbers vary by single digit percentage points from poll to poll, not enough to change the conclusion - that progressive policy is overwhelmingly popular - which is why it's so frustrating that you're defending Democrats shying away from those policies to appeal to a mythical "moderate."
You are mischaracterizing what I'm saying and doing. I keep repeating it, but one more time: I do not like the false dichotomy that it is either one group's fault or another. Lazy non voters are largely to blame.
You've gotta be trolling me.