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[–] 0101100101@programming.dev 107 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

This problem is not isolated to Japan. Countries all across the world are facing the same issue and have been for a number of years.

Create a shitty, miserable, society with no rights or support, and people do not want to bring children into it.... who'd guess?

The flannel has been wrung dry to the detriment of the working class; there is no where to go, no more water to squeeze from them. This is global society / capitalism falling apart.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago

Exactly its not some mysterious problem no matter how much the government and media try to frame it as one, people of the age to have kids have no time for kids and no money for kids so no wonder they have no desire for kids.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Even if they did want children, without the support systems, it may not be feasible for them to have kids. Having them might mean choosing to starve or go without a house.

Even if you're in a country with a public health care system, a sick/young child means having to take time off work to care for them.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] 0101100101@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Isn't it interesting that the more "developed" countries have the lowest birth rates.

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's what follows education. It's the largely uneducated areas of the world that still raw dog like there's no tomorrow.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Solid racism. Even if your correlation is "accurate" (according to imperial definitions/measurements of "education"), that's not causation.

People also tend to have more kids when the life expectancy of their kids if very low. Colonized people have low life expectancy because their labor and resources are exploited by the privileged.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 2 hours ago

This is just fucking dumb

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 3 points 18 hours ago

Pointing out an objective fact isn't racism, it just is.

[–] osugi_sakae@midwest.social 3 points 18 hours ago

My understanding is that lower fertility follows higher female education for several reasons, including that women in school - and with access to birth control - prefer to wait until finishing school and starting a career before having children. Countries where women have fewer educational and fewer career opportunities, people often start having babies sooner, and more babies overall.

Another oft-mentioned factor is social safety nets such as social security (as much as that can count as a safety net). Areas with no or weak elder support outside of the family tend to have bigger families. Shockingly, this was also the case in the "developed" world back before they developed. Ask older adults in the USA how many brothers and sisters their grandparents had and it is probably a lot more than the next generation had, and the next, etc.

Do colonized people have lower life expectancy or do their children? Or both? Certainly, exploited people may also be living in (and unable to escape from) a society with poor elder care and insufficient safety nets such as social security or other retirement options. Which, of course, makes having lots of kids a totally rational decision. And also limits the ability of many women to participate in the economy outside of the home, which can also slow the development of the country / area's economy.