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Trump says US will not make Ukraine security guarantees ‘beyond very much’ and Kyiv can ‘forget about’ joining Nato (www.theguardian.com)

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Donald Trump, at his first cabinet meeting, said he believed the US is negotiating “very successfully” with Russia and Ukraine.

The US president suggested that a ceasefire deal is close. “We’re going to make a deal with Russia and Ukraine to stop killing people,” he told reporters.

Asked if he is willing to make security guarantees as part of the deal, Trump replied:

I’m not going to make security guarantees beyond very much … We’re going to have Europe do that, because Europe is the next door neighbour.

He added that the US will be partnering with Ukraine “in terms of rare earth.” “We very much need rare earth, they have great rare earth,” Trump said.

Trump said it was “great deal for Ukraine too, because they get us over there, we are going to be working over there”.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Are you able to write a single comment without half of it painting the person you are disagreeing with as a supporter of Putin?

Supporter is a strong word. I believe 'useful idiot' is the traditional nomenclature.

Read one of your own favorite newspapers articles and replace the word Russia with America. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/natural-resources-ukraine-war-1.6467039

"Russia, a country on the border of Ukraine with long-standing interests in subjugating the people and territory, wants Ukraine's minerals; therefore, the US wants it too"

Maybe India will invade next.

And the open acknowledgment of mineral extortion is not a new Trump plan. It was openly proposed by neocons last year. https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28288

Holy fucking shit, did you not read your own article?

Graham said the idea came from former President Donald Trump, who on Feb. 10 said that aid for Ukraine should not go through unless it’s restructured as a loan.

Jesus fucking Christ.

This is a common claim by fascist shitheads, and has been for a good two years now, that has been repeatedly debunked in various ways. It has been repeated by Trump’s fascist cronies recently, though, so it would be very interesting if you have an actual source for this. Surely you wouldn’t signal boost pro-genocide misinformation from fascist cunts in service to imperialist aims, and fascist cunts in service to the US fascist government, no less, would you…?

So that's a 'no' to this one. Just freely repeating fascist claims in service to an ongoing genocide.

You want to know why you feel like you're being painted as a "Putin supporter"? It's because your talking points are from the same shit trough.

If you don't want to be mistaken for a fascist, I might recommend no longer supporting fascist talking points, and, unlike fascists, maybe acting with some small modicum of respect for consistency and factual accuracy instead of repeating baseless claims which serve imperialist powers and citing sources that disprove your own points.