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[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago) (1 children)

That's really up to you.

You can either demonstrate how your logic doesn't result in you calling yourself a bigot, or concede that you are one.

You keep saying it's an ad hominem, but I'm not saying your argument is invalid because you're a bigot.

I'm saying either your logic isn't sound, or if it is, then you must conclude that you are a bigot as a result of it.

You refuse to concede that your logic isn't sound, so therefore...

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

No you haven't.

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

So you can't show me how my conclusion isn't sound based on the logic you laid out?

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

What position have I abandoned? I've simply followed your logic that says anyone who uses the word "manspain" in any context is a bigot.

Show me the inconsistency.

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 11 hours ago (9 children)

It's an ad-hominem to follow your logic in which you claim that you are now a bigot as a result of this conversation?

Or is it just that your reasoning is beyond goofy?

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 0 points 12 hours ago (11 children)

I'm not comfortable using it

I mean, you've used it soooo many times in this exchange now. You must be a mega-bigot by this point.

How can you even live with yourself?

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 0 points 12 hours ago (13 children)

So then you just need to look inward to see why you're comfortable using a word that makes you bigoted, and you'll have your answer.

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 0 points 13 hours ago (15 children)

Can you do the same with mansplaining? I’d say no.

Literally the usage in this quoted text. Unless you're saying that you're bigoted for using it in that context.

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 0 points 14 hours ago (17 children)

An example of what using the phrase misogynistic without it being derogatory

Yes.

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 0 points 15 hours ago (19 children)

Sure, now is that the only way to use that descriptor? No.

Can you think of an example?

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 0 points 15 hours ago (21 children)

Context implies at times a low opinion

I can't think of a single example of a time where a woman would be assessing a man's behavior towards her, deem it to be misogynistic, but not as a low opinion.

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 0 points 17 hours ago (23 children)

Max comment depth reached. Bringing this back up to where it was first relevant:

It’s by definition discriminatory because it’s a statement of discrimination no one said anything about it being abusive. It’s not just not necessarily derogatory whereas mansplaining always is.

To call a behavior "misogynistic" is to express a low opinion of it, or detract from the character of the person exhibiting that behavior.

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