ambitiousslab

To be honest, I think the above clients and services like Snikket fit that description.

Now, I wouldn't say they're all on the same level UX-wise as WhatsApp, Telegram etc. But I do think they are 90%-95% of the way there, and in my experience that's enough to convince friends and family to switch over.

In my experience, when people haven't wanted to switch, it's normally not been because of the clients, but because they don't want to install yet another app to talk to someone.

Any new open source software is always a net positive.

But, there are a few small caveats to the way they've done it (depending on how cynical/cautious you are):

• Because Proton are not accepting contributions, they own all the copyright, so can make the code closed source again if they want to (that wouldn't affect the already released versions, but future versions)
• They could likely take down any derivative on iOS, since Apple will always take instruction from the copyright holder, for GPL'd code
• Since the builds are not reproducible, there's no guarantee that the binaries they distribute are built from the source code

How do you define modern? I would call these modern clients personally:

• Android: Conversations
• iOS / MacOS: Monal
• Linux: Dino
• Windows: Gajim

It's not perfect yet, but it's much, much better than the old days.

OMEMO is supported by every major client, and they interoperate successfully. Unfortunately, most clients are stuck with an older version of the OMEMO spec. It's not ideal, but it doesn't cause any practical issue, unless you use Kaidan or UWPX, which only support the latest version.

All popular clients and servers support retrieving chat history now too.

In practice, I've been using it for several months to chat with friends and family, and haven't had any issues.

Perfect, now you just have to wrap your program inside a debugger in production!

Yep, that's the gist of it. In order to change the license from the GPL, they'd need the permission of all of the copyright holders who've contributed code under the GPL to the project. After a few months have passed, this basically makes it impossible (or at least extremely difficult) since at least one person (and likely many people) will say no.

Thanks for explaining some of the history, it makes some sense and gives me some things to try. Thanks for all the work you've done on the mobile stack as well. It's made my life a lot better. And maybe one day I'll be able to ditch the backup nokia too :)

It was just from cycling. Perhaps he just got unlucky though? From the sounds of things his experience seems like an outlier. Or he was just so fast that the vibration frequency matched that of a motorbike 😁

I have a PinePhone Pro, and it runs nheko very well. Fractal is a little slower, but still usable. Not sure about Simplex I'm afraid.

I'm running postmarketOS v24.06. I could easily have messed something up though!

At least in my case! I ordered this year. It took 2 months, but it did arrive :)

One thing to be aware of is that riding around a lot with the phone attached can cause the stabilisation sensor in the camera to go wrong. When this happens your camera feed starts wobbling around all the time. This happened to a friend of mine and let's just say his snapchat stories had a very distinctive look :)

I'm not sure whether more expensive mounts do a better job with this (I think his was quite cheap) but make sure to do your research if you're planning on using it a lot, and you care about your phone's camera.