Fartster

On the other hand I accidentally bought a $30 scratch off ticket today and won nothing

No, I was being completely serious and I don't see how it's absurd but I'm happy you think so.

wym

objectively helpful

With respect, history and science disagree with this as a blanket statement.

I particularly like the fact that they campaigned on stopping Trump and spectacularly failed twice.

1. Liberals who see themselves as progressive and are disillusioned with the democrats and the liberal media apparatus.

2. I want them to be confronted by the contradictions of the morals they project and the party they support. If they are presented with this information in such a way that by continuing to support the democrats they must start to see and accept themselves as a bloodthirsty racist, imperialist, bootlicker, etc. Since I believe perceived moral superiority is what they cling to, we need to chip away at their self-image so they are confronted with the reality of the ideology they support. This is what I need help with, because in my own interactions I am too intense and fire off facts, I see people shut down. Trump is just toooo scarrrry to recognize that the democrats are actually evil and sick people. Essentially an appeal to emotions, but leading them to this conclusion for themselves via facts about the horrors of liberal capitalism.

3. I didn't think this far, and again looking to brainstorm so I appreciate these thoughts. Thank you.

People would try to talk to me about the election, and I would talk about how crazy it is that Kamala is comitting a genocide and campaigning with the Cheneys, Clintons and begging for GWB to endorse her. Seeing how it fried peoples brains when I started to list of statistics about how many countries they destroyed and civilians they killed and immediately default to yeah but Trump is worse. Then follow it up with why are you okay with killing so many Arabs?

But womens reproductive rights, okay how do Democrats plan on getting those? Biden could declare a national emergency and open clinics right now but he wouldn't because he's a conservative catholic.

I don't believe the bloodlust of amerikkkans toward the middle east would be reduced even if those conditions existed.

It actually still amazes me every time I am like a goldfish. Just so fucking blatant this time like they just have a blinking billboard above their heads saying "we are genocidal freaks and we hate you please give us money please please please". An absolute show of the trauma bond they have with white liberals.

The fact that liberals can still feel they have a moral high ground is incredible to me. Just insane levels of contradiction.

Like legitimately, even Obama was probably more deadly and bloodthirsty than Trump across the globe. Dick Cheney, HRC, and it's not even a contest. I am afraid of Trump, but I'm fucking terrified of the Clintons, the Bushes and the Cheneys. Trump simply doesn't have the connections those ghouls have that has allowed them to destroy entire countries and kill millions of civilians.

This is why I've never given any thought to the harm reduction argument of voting for Dems. They HAVE caused more harm already.

EDIT: This stems from the frustration of talking to people irl, not online, about these contradictions. If you are going to say "we believe in facts" then let's look at the numbers. They plug their ears, they don't want to hear the real horrors or liberalism.

They are going to learn their lesson and start lying during campaigns again. They will run a clinton type "progressive" democrat who will say the words that liberals can shout at us. Then if they get into office they will do what they always have.