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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 75 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's been 20 years since broadband became fairly ubiquitous, there is 0 excuse for telcos to milk us like this, bandwidth gets so much cheaper for them every year.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The 25/3 bar was specifically lowered to that so that 4G LTE would meet this bar and they could claim that 99% of Americans now have access to high-speed Internet for political points.

Realistically, if it were up to me, I'd say anything 25/3 and lower is "low-speed", between 25/3 and 100/10 is "standard speed", and set the bar for "high-speed" to mean 100/10 or better. Companies should not be allowed to advertise "blazing-fast high-speed Internet" and then it turns out to be 30/3 ADSL for $50 a month

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[–] Foggyfroggy@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They’ve been stealing taxpayer dollars for 30 years, constantly stalling and delaying and then saying the plans are now outdated and we need more money for the new plans. Repeat every decade. Everyone knows it’s a monopoly with speed/price fixing yet somehow it never improves.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can't speak to Comcast's evils, but I call my ISP once a year to ask about my speeds and bill. Just got bumped from 200/20 to 1000/?, with a $10 discount. I'm on the edge of town, not technically rural, but close enough.

Not sure the answer to the monopoly thing, but I used to be an internet cable guy, so I can speak to the complexity of having 2 providers where there was only one. The costs are staggering.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Not sure the answer to the monopoly thing,

  • make it a publicly owned and operated municipal utility
  • make the "last mile" publicly owned infrastructure and private service providers can connect to the data center that connects the last mile
  • require that the company who owns and maintains the last mile can not also be a service provider over that last mile infrastructure

The last one is how Texas handles the power grid, so it would need a real regulatory body making sure the private last mile infrastructure is actually maintained, unlike the Texas power grid.

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[–] Aimhere@mastodon.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

@Foggyfroggy @BrikoX I really wish someone in the FCC /FTC/Federal government in general would put their foot down and say to the industry, "You WILL build broadband everywhere, you WILL make it 100 Mbps at minimum, and you WILL pay for it out of your own pocket." Nothing less is acceptable.

[–] 0x01@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

After how ajit pai shilled the fuck out of the chair position I don't know if I can ever take it seriously again.

Fuck ajit pai, of course.

[–] Shikadi@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

she supports net neutrality so that's nice

[–] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Tell that to Spectrum. ‘Up-to 300mbps’ my ass.

[–] BitingChaos@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Their shit 10 Mbps upload speed is the worst part.

[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 1 points 2 years ago

400mbps down with Xfinity here, and I also get 10mbps up. I wish American ISPs weren't hired by Satan himself.

[–] Countmacula@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Fuck spectrum

[–] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

3.00 maybe.

[–] Einstein@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I get like 330-340 from spectrum 🤷🏼‍♂️

[–] Bender_Rodriguez@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Data caps are just as fucking evil. Pure greed.

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You guys are gettin caps?!?

[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not just the Philippines. AT&T's broadband service in the USA comes with a data cap. One of the reasons why I dropped them. Always good to read the fine print.

I wonder if that varies by market/service. I have gigabit in Texas with no cap, at least at far as I know.

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[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 16 points 2 years ago (9 children)

...that's the standard? wtf? 100mbps is a bit slow but would make sense, but 25???

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[–] EternalWarBear@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah we would've had it already too if the government didn't get fleeced. It was about 2010 when the "National Broadband Plan" was unveiled. Part of its goal was 100Mbs to 100M people by 2020.

[–] McNasty@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Comcast is finally doing their part in WV.

There's an absolutely massive fiber install happening statewide.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't call this speed okay even in 2012

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes that's shit.

But also on top of that 25 really means maybe 15, because they also don't require them to provide the bandwidth they advertise to you.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Throw more free money at the major telco firms. I’m sure that’ll fix it. Not like we haven’t tried that before. Repeatedly.

[–] Jdog09@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I’m just waiting on anyone to kick my 15/3 AT&T out of our subdivision.

[–] Zana@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Feel free to throw rocks at me and put me on a cross, but 25Mbps is still good enough as is...

...if all you are doing w/ it is to let a live stream of a beach playing 24/7 on a small display or something like that. :^)

t. I'm doing that right now -- on a rpi 4 that is on my left. It's breddy gucci.

[–] Kinglink@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Great, now what are we going to do about it?

Hell just outlaw datacaps and I'd say that's a good step.

That being said I doubt almost anyone on here probably has more than those speeds, Cox (the worst cable company, trust me) gives me 10x those numbers, but the real problem is they'll continue to raise the rates on us, and worse, there's no competition. Verizon 5g came by and it's not really a viable alternative, because Cox just out paces them enough, but ultimately, you're going to spend at least 100 dollars a month on Cable, but still there's no choices available.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Lol I like how this post somehow has negative one downvote

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