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[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 154 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They just did a favor to a colleague

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 96 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're not wrong, he is a city employee.

[–] Gangreless@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He'll be running for mayor next, this was just his kickoff campaign

[–] 10DollarBanana@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

I wish you were kidding.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 93 points 2 years ago (12 children)

This is why we need to arm ourselves - because the right wing chud lunatics are out for blood.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 76 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] norbert@kbin.social 56 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Indeed, I suspect we'd see some movement on gun control if minorities and marginalized people would begin exercising their 2A rights. We all know the story of Reagan and the Black Panthers and how that played out, I suspect the same thing would happen again.

At any rate, I recommend all my LGBTQ/PoC friends arm yourself now, spend some time at a range, maybe get some basic first-aid training, and most importantly start meeting and networking with like-minded people in your area, start building networks of people who're on your side. Law enforcement will not protect us; if the rightwing has their way we'll be living A Handmaids Tale and a lot of us will be dead or forced into some form of slavery. Fuck that, this is America, we're not a Christian nation no matter how much a bunch of fundamentalists want us to be, we're the land of the free, and when they decide to fuck around they need to find out.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Let’s start a group “Muslims for gun rights” and watch bigotry work its magic…

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

if you're under the impression they won't figure out some way to create one law for "good christian americans" and a separate law for "those people" you fundamentally misunderstand what conservatism is about

[–] Feelfold@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

This already exists! Many states have a denial clause in their concealed carry weapons permitting that is 🙄 justified🙄 for, "good cause" or "good moral character". Given the rate of mass shootings, and the disproportionate number of them being committed by white men, it's not a jump to say without clear definitions "good cause", and "good moral character" are just another codified excuse to justify systemic oppression.

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[–] DrPop@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thankfully I have friends with a lot of land, but my local range is owned by an avid trump supporter. I've had serious conversation with my wife about owning a gun but she'd never pass a background check due to her mental health history.

[–] norbert@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

There's a range here that requires an NRA membership to even join lol. I'm fortunate enough to live in a place with a few nice, public-access ranges that are run by/in cooperation with state parks and those are usually a little more welcoming places run by Rangemasters who take their job seriously.

Shooting can be a really fun hobby and a great way to bond with friends and family, it's a shame it's been so politicized and mischaracterized by people with questionable motivations.

[–] MahatmaGandhalf@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or if it's anything like in Germany, the cops and the right wing nutjobs are the same people.

[–] legion02@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Some of those that work forces...

[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes. The solution is everyone should be armed all time. What could possibly go wrong?

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[–] okbin@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

i want to add - if you need to arm yourself but for some reason cannot have a gun, there are non-lethal weapons and guns out there. not perfect, but definitely better than going completely unarmed. if you are able to workout, that helps too. if you’re unarmed and a fast runner or a good fighter, that again is better than nothing at all.

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[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 90 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago

cOpS jUsT nEeD mOrE tRaInInG!

The training: Do what Hitler says!

[–] aaron_griffin@lemmy.world 85 points 2 years ago (18 children)

I really love when people use the phrase "bad apple" to refer to bad cops. As in "oh that's just a bad apple, we're not all like that"

Except the full phrase is "a few bad apples spoils the bunch"

Guys, the bunch is spoiled. Throw it away. Get a new bunch

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

The barrel itself is rotten. Replace all the apples with good ones, they'll rot too. We need to build a new barrel, with significantly more accountability.

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[–] guidothekillerpimp@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago
[–] rodhlann@kbin.social 46 points 2 years ago

Some of those that work forces...

[–] JeffCraig@citizensgaming.com 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I just don't understand our societies lax take on gun control.

In Boston, there was a restaurant owner that got mad at a guy so he rode up to him on his bike and tried to shoot him in the street! He's only being charged with assault!

Motherfucker tried to commit murder and shot into a busy restaurant and no one seems to really care.

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

There's a problem, of course. To fix it, we have tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas.

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[–] Athena5898@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Another title for this is KKK member releases another KKK member for doing KKK shit. ACAB

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Or even better: KKK members release another KKK member for drawing too much attention to their everyday KKK activities

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago

Kentucky cops release KKKolleague who pulled a loaded gun on LGBTQ protest

ftfy

[–] Pissy_Badger@pawb.social 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Brutal paywall. Can someone paste the story, here?

[–] Odusei@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When Officer William Stewart arrived on the scene of a pro-LGBTQ rally on June 3 in Corbin, Ky., he found a self-identified Ku Klux Klan member menacing rally-goers with a loaded handgun.

“Take your gun off!” Stewart said to 43-year-old KKK member Clayton Segebart, who puts his handgun on the ground.

“He’s got a gun! He’s been trying to f------ shoot someone!” a protester yelled at the officer.

But the dramatic scene, captured in a 15-minute police bodycam video obtained by Raw Story through a Kentucky Open Records Act request, didn't result in any arrests.

Instead, Stewart decided not press charges against Segebart or Kenneth Hutton — a former city employee who arrived on the scene at the same time and also displayed a KKK card — despite protesters showing the officer phone video of the volatile moments immediately preceding the officer’s arrival.

Corbin police seized firearms from two KKK members, emptied the bullets out of the chambers, and then returned the weapons. Video still courtesy Corbin Police Department

The bodycam video shows LGBTQ activists playing a cell phone recording of Segebart waving a KKK card in a protester’s face. He then spews violent and homophobic language and reaches for a handgun he had strapped to his waist.

The police bodycam video later shows Stewart speaking with James Hensley, the 21-year-old LGBTQ supporter who was the target of Segebart’s hate.

“All right, I’m watching the video,” Stewart told Hensley, before putting the onus of pressing charges on Hensley. “You are more than welcome to come down to the police department and fill out a warrant for him.”

Hensley then pointed out to the officer that Segebart had identified himself as a Ku Klux Klan member.

“He comes over here, says he’s talking about all these other murders of trans people and just trying to scare us, man,” Hensley told Stewart. “He’s Billy Badass, and he’s just looking for a way to kill someone, man. It sucks.”

Stewart, who the video depicts as de-escalating the situation as he speaks with numerous people on the scene, then explained to Hensley that if he wanted to pursue charges, he could come down to the police station and “swear out a criminal complaint.” If a judge issued a warrant or criminal summons, Stewart said, Segebart and Hensley would “both have to appear in court together.”

“I just got a lot in my life,” Hensley told Stewart.

Hensley told Raw Story that as a result of a car accident in April, he had to change jobs and now relies on rides from friends and family members to get to work. And he has been taking care of his ailing grandfather. Hensley said he decided that ultimately the hassle of going to court to see that justice is done just wasn’t worth it.

Corbin Police Detective Robbie Hodge told Raw Story that Segebart's conduct toward Hensley meets the criteria for a harassment charge. Under Kentucky law, "a person is guilty of harassment when, with intent to intimidate, harass, annoy, or alarm another person, he or she ... makes an offensively coarse utterance, gesture or display, or addresses abusive language to any person present."

Harassment is a misdemeanor, and Hodge said for police to make an arrest on a misdemeanor charge — with only a few exceptions such as domestic violence and driving under the influence — the victim must sign a criminal complaint.

As shown in the police bodycam video, the police separately considered whether to charge Segebart for pulling a firearm, which took place after the altercation with Hensley. As Segebart and Hensley argued, an unidentified man came on the scene and told Segebart to leave. In response, Segebart pulled his gun and waved it in the man’s direction.

The police also opted to not charge Segebart with “wanton endangerment” in relation to his actions toward the unidentified man. Kentucky statutes define “wanton endangerment” as “wantonly” engaging “in conduct which creates a substantial danger of physical injury to another person.” The offense is a Class D felony “under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life.”

The bodycam video shows Stewart and an unidentified officer conferring. Stewart can be heard telling the other officer that Segebart and another man “come up, basically called them ‘f-----s,’ and then they’re getting in a heated argument.

“He pulls his weapon,” Stewart continued. “He doesn’t raise it at them, but he pulls it.”

“Did he have a reason to pull it?” the other officer asked.

“No,” Stewart responded.

“Well, why did he say he pulled it?” the other officer asked.

The video then shows Stewart walking over to Segebart and asking him. Segebart told the officer that the unidentified man “was approaching to me really fast, and I didn’t know if he was going to swing on me or not.”

Rather than “hit him and actually really escalate it, all I did was pull [the gun] out and step back,” Segebart said.

The unidentified man left the scene, and the police were unable to interview him.

Despite not charging Segebart, Stewart told Hensley: “I get it. You should never pull a weapon unless you absolutely have to. That’s not how we’re trained. That’s our last resource, and that should be his.”

When the police arrived on the scene, the body-cam video shows them seizing firearms from Segebart and Hutton. The police removed bullets from the chambers of the guns.

But within 14 minutes of arriving, they returned the weapons to the men and told them to leave, according to the video. They also told the LGBTQ supporters to leave the park after determining that they did not have a permit.

“I’m gonna give y’all’s firearms back, all right?” Stewart told Segebart and Hutton. “I’m gonna walk ’em up there with you, OK? Just — just leave, OK? They’re leaving, too. I’m making ’em leave, so you guys gotta leave, too. OK?”

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

how in the fuck can these fucksticks be released after officers discuss them committing a felony. these guys escalated a situation in hopes it would get physical and they "would fear for their lives."

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

how in the fuck can these fucksticks be released after officers discuss them committing a felony.

Because the cops need a fourth for bridge?

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[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

How is self identifying as KKK not already a crime?

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[–] Bouncingbollocks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Wonder what the article says

[–] sickday@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Those that work forces...

[–] febra@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Well, it's one of them.

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