You're describing felony wiretapping. Go to the police.
this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2023
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Can you demonstrate a sound reasoning for having suffered damages in a quantifiable, monetary way? This isn't always strictly necessary, but it sure is helpful. Hurt feelings are great and all, but they generally aren't worth monetary compensation on their own.
This also, of course, depends on the local laws wherever you live, and can vary considerably.
This sounds like stalking tbh. Maybe you can report this to the police?
This. People this controlling and with this little regard for other people's rights and boundaries tend to react extremely poorly to having their control challenged. The most dangerous time in any abusive relationship is when the victim leaves-- and make no mistake, OP, that's what's happening to your friend. Escalation to physical violence in these circumstances would not be out of the ordinary.
Please be careful, and make sure your friend has a plan to make sure she's in a safe place where her soon-to-be-ex can't get to her before she breaks up with him. And I would strongly recommend you both get a restraining order if that's something you feel comfortable doing.
I know this may sound paranoid, but it's always best to err on the side of caution in potentially dangerous situations like these.
That should absolutely constitute a stalking charge at the very least. But I recommend talking to a lawyer to be sure about what you can or can't do legally.
Pull android logs (logcat tools/android debugging)
Find the date and time of the package being installed
Correlate the install time with where they were at that time
Use that information to get an anti stalking order
Contact your local District Attorney to see if they can assist with a wiretapping filing
It's also wiretapping, and possibly hacking. Big big felonies. The latter being against federal law. Might want to talk to the FBI
I doubt they will find anything in the logs. It is overwritten over time, and it is also lost when the phone is rebooted. Might still be worth checking, but yeah.. check the date of the oldest message.
Finding when was that app installed would be a good idea, as that is stored persisently (e.g. you can check it with App Manager), but not after it has been uninstalled.
I'm not a lawyer and you should go talk to several. Most states have several ways to find lawyers. If you have any friends who are lawyers, describe this to them and ask if they can refer you to anyone. Every state in the US has a bar association. Their websites have search engines for all the lawyers licensed to practice in their state. Make appointments with a few of them. You don't have to pay for the initial consultation. You explain the circumstances and they tell you what your legal options are and what it will cost you. Pick which ever one you want to work with (if any).
Talk to them about this but here's my basic understanding of how it breaks down.
There are basically two avenues; criminal and civil.
In order for there to be a criminal prosecution, they would need to have broken some law and it needs to be bad enough that a government attorney is willing to spend their time going after it. There are a whole bunch of federal laws around phones and telecommunications. You're probably familiar with a bunch of them from your IT work. Chances are pretty good that they broke some law. If you give the police your evidence they may care enough to go after it.
In order for there to be a civil suit, they need to have done something that harmed you, in a quantifiable way and they need to have done it in an illegal way. This does seem like their methods met the threshold. The harder part might be establishing harm. Feeling violated is hard to quantify, unless there's some statutory compensation. If you can point at something like lost wages or lost economic opportunities it's probably stronger.
You didn't say where you're from? Is this the Great Britain? Norway? Maybe the US?
That reminds me of the time a young lady asked, in a very US centric sub, about how to get away from her abusive parents and how to legally keep them out of her life.
The only problem was she forgot to mention she lives in like Iran... So yeah when that piece of information came out the advices change quite quickly.
Yeah, it can get confusing at time. I was hoping we'd get rid of some of the US-defaultism that used to roam Reddit :P
Talk to your union representative, but looks like you're being harrassed by a coworker, so yes you can press criminal charges and/or sue them civilly
That is some crazy f'd up stuff. Hopefully your friend steers clear, this is the largest red flag ever.
You can sue over anything, sure, but if you're really considering it, you're better off waiting for HR to finish its investigation. If it comes out in your favor, you can use that to bolster your position; if it doesn't, then you may want to rethink filing. Let somebody else's money do your litmus test.
Fuck yeah, you can sue anybody for anything in the US. Doesn't mean it'll work out well for you though. Talk to a lawyer.
Are you in the U.S.? If so, I would seek legal counsel. Creating a hostile work environment is illegal: https://www.eeoc.gov/harassment
Looks like the best answer is to seek legal counsel, talk to an actual lawyer. Also, grab as much evidence as you can of those wrongdoings, as they always make a stronger case than witness testimony.
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