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I don't see a discussion thread for the recently concluded Attack on Titan anime series, so here it is. Mods, feel free to delete if inappropriate.

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I need a 45 minute video explaining what happened

[–] odium@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

code geass spoilersWasn't expecting Eren to go the lelouch route.

Also the Schindler's list moment was great.

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Code geass executed it much better.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tbf Lelouch was portrayed as a political/strategic genius, and Eren as a suicidal idiot, so it makes sense Lelouch'd pull it off better

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not about the characters pulling it off better but the story. Justifying all the plot holes by calling Eren an idiot doesn't mean the plot holes weren't there.

Best example of a pathetic breakdown from protagonist done well is actually the Death Note manga. They foreshadowed it from the get go and the story was fairly logical.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah, fair enough. I personally am just happy that we got an ending that works and sticks to its themes. Could it have been better? Absolutely, but after Game of Thrones, I'm happy AoT was able to give us an ending that works as a bow tie. On the foreshadowing bit though, Eren was always shown to be prone to hatred and violence, so I dont feel like any of his decisions ever seemed out of character

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does it? Does the AoT ending work? It left massive gaps and stuff that made little sense.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It wrapped enough of the story threads up to be a complete story, and it made its statement on the cycle of war and hatred. Not all loose ends need to be tied up for a story to reach a satisfying conclusion

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Let's agree to disagree. I don't think it's a satisfying conclusion at all.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Fair enough!

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

It was the only logical solution if you ask me, Lelouch did that to redeem his mates/friends, so did Eren, he was not a full asshole, he was just so fucking stupid, and I think Isayama put that very clear.

[–] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I didn't read the manga, but I think the show wrapped up good. It didn't leave a bad taste in my mouth.

[–] GrossMargin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Watched this one last night before going to bed. Woke up this morning and haven't been able to think of anything else today. The show nailed it. I generally liked the ending when I read the manga, but seeing it all animated last night, I can't think of this story being told any other way. It was perfect for me.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I felt somewhat disappointed with the manga ending back when I read it. I even remember reading some quotes from the author where he said he thought he “didn’t execute it well”, or something to that effect. It all just left me feeling a little deflated.

This was a very difficult ending to pull off in the best of circumstances, and then it unfortunately had some problems with pacing and clarity. Nothing too major, really, but just enough to make everything feel a little off. It wasn’t a great way to feel at the end of an otherwise 10/10 story.

However, I am extremely pleased with the anime ending! I felt like they totally addressed the issues I encountered. The pacing in general felt so much better, and in particular I think the rework of the conversation between Eren and Armin was excellent.

I think this is the best version of the story. I’m glad it came out the way it did and that people are receiving it positively

[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't have much to add what hasn't been said already, but god I love a good epilogue. I was a bit scared that they'd just cut to black after Mikasa walks off with Erens head but they gave us propper few-months-later, few-decades-later and even a rare and elusive in-the-distant-future epilogue.

I'm gonna be honest, I didn't really get why Eren did the Rumbling. He knew that ultimately he'd fail and conflict would come back to Paradise. Did he do it to make himself a sort of evil martyr or did he even have a choice?

Also, is Historia not the queen of Paradise anymore? Her home didn't look very Queen like and I don't think she was ok with that fascist movement happening there.

Also, what was up with the people at that fascist parade, why did they look like grown up Gabi and Falco and their (dead) friends? Is this just my face blindness?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Pure speculation but I heard a rather relevant quote recently that went something like

"The reason the Palestine conflict is so difficult to resolve is because of the power imbalance. One side holds all the power and is therefore unwilling to do any concessions"

By leveling the world's and Paradise Islands population to equal numbers this power balance would be restored and thus both parties would now be open to peace talks

*disclaimer not sure if this is the correct interpretation, just my own.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I think he set himself as a badguy that only Paradis could take down so that the world would be less likely to just eradicate Paradis out of fear of their power like they were already angling towards wanting to do. I ALSO think part of the point was that this was a stupid angle to take, and it happened because those who end up in power during war arent always those who are great to have in power during peace times. I think Eren admitting that it ended up this way because he's an idiot who couldnt come up with a different way hints towards this message