I get it - the timing of the last season and its pacing really shows the writers had to deal with a near-cancellation, and then getting a year to fill with 2 eps and sub-plots and clip-shows and really slow development.

But I still love it. NPH was a complete riot when all we saw of him since Before was this, and H&KgtWC , and I think he enjoyed the role of the incorrigible cad a bit too much; but the over-the-top stuff is still funny. The other actors were tremendous, and I think they enjoyed their roles most of the time too.

And my favourite character is the City itself. I miss it, and they dressed and staged it mostly lovingly and it was wonderful.

I'll watch it a few more times over, but I need a scorecard showing me the forward-references to look out for.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 6 days ago

HIMYM was a show that gave me comfort as an awkward kid in a tiny rural hateful town. No it wasn't the best, but you're spot on about the city. It was the last member of the gang. Now I moved to a city and love it, in no small part to the show

[–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago

My pick would be The Simpsons. I have watched it a lot growing up, but only at the beginning of this year did I do a full 35 season binge watch.

And any opinion you find online boils down to classic Simpsons was great, modern Simpsons sucks.

And I disagree with this premise. Because fundamentally The Simpsons Isn’t one show, it’s actually three. You have the classic era, then the transitional era, and the modern era. and it is that transitional era where I think the show stumbled the most.

Nowadays, though, I think the show is pretty good. Sure, the classic era might have been better on average, but I think it managed to pull itself out of the slump. And I still laugh at jokes even in the worst episodes.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I know the ending is bad, but Game of Thrones was like the peak of fantasy TV for a good chunk of its run, and now I hear people actively recommending against watching it. The ending doesn't stop people from enjoying all the good bits!

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I recently did another re-watch and I found that I grew bored of it in Season 4.

Anyone asks me I tell them to watch the first three seasons and quit.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah people talk about the last season but it started way before then. Arguably I'd say the crack start in season 2 but yeah it doesn't get bad until season 4. That's when things are starting to noticeably go downhill.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

My wife had a bigger reaction to the show getting progressively worse because she felt wronged by the fact they "made her wait A WHOLE YEAR to watch garbage", lol. It might add to the fans' frustration and bad blood. I binged it like 2-3 years ago, and I truly enjoyed it all the way til the end of season 5. Most shows don't have a good pilot, I can't hate one with 5 great seasons, but again I didn't have to wait for it. 🤷

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

I loved pretty much everything until season 8 which is just.... Weird. All of the sudden it's only 6 episodes for the season? Then one episode is just a black screen with sounds where putting the TV brightness at 100 still only shows you shadows at best. The battle tactics were a clown show, the final boss fight was just the little murder girl doing her thing for a second. It suuuucked.

Then the next episode, Daenerys apparently forgot that there were enemies aroud, and because of that one of her dragons got sniped at a multi kilometer distance, high up in the air by what I can only presume was a battery of patriot anti air missile system for its accuracy.

Then the spy master who always weaves webs of treatchery and spying just plainly suggest a revolt because that's how we roll now?

Then Daenerys madness suddenly kicks in for no reason and she psycho murders half the town by burning them all and then goes full Nazi.

It was so so so obvious that the show runners didn't give a shit anymore and wanted to do their new shiny little Star Wars project. Good that they lost that too.

Fuck DnD

[–] LilB0kChoy@piefed.social 22 points 1 week ago

I wouldn’t recommend against people watching it, but I would caution them because it’s a big time commitment for the ending you get.

[–] Ashtear@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just think it's ironic that it came to mirror the books in that you can enjoy absolutely top-notch storytelling for a while and then can't enjoy the ending.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

The ending is definitely not "top notch story telling", though.

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 1 week ago

For a new viewer, it's worth watching. As someone who's seen the end, literally the first scene of S1E1 sets up a huge mystery that never ever gets resolved

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Big Bang Theory.

At worst, it's just kinda mid. I think a lot people just take too much shit personally because a lot of the haters act like the character of Sheldon is making fun of them personally.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I never considered it but it explains Redditors' deep hatred for the show, lol. It's not like it's the only trash show that's also popular...

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

oh yea, there was a sub 2xchromosome, some women thought it was a mysogynistic show based on how they dumbed the female actors overtime.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

Oh, that is pretty funny, since it's a sitcom. The only way a character in a sitcom doesn't collect a bunch of braindead stupid choices is getting written out of the show.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

at worst, or at best?

LOL nvm misread the title as overhyped

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

I'm one of those guys that loved tbbt. It's just simple comedy, don't take it too seriously, don't take it too personal

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I actually don't think it gets enough hate.

I have nothing personal against the premise of some nerd saying things "too smart" for the social context. That's just Frasier and I liked Frasier.

The jokes just weren't funny.

[–] CTDummy@aussie.zone 15 points 6 days ago

Agreed. It’s not hard to see why people dislike it if they feel a part of the many sub-cultures portrayed. Who should they relate to? Lenard, who runs around after a mostly disinterested Penny, fixing stuff for her in order to get enough holes punched in his good guy card and can’t talk to women? Rajesh, who literally can’t talk when women are present? Old mate sex pest with the Beatles hair cut who we’re pretty much introduced to by him using an RC car to record up Penny's skirt and has the weird relationship with his nasally, constantly screaming mom? AKA Mr don’t leave your drink unattended within an kilometre of me. All of which relocate a spy satellite to spy on naked women? Sheldon is obnoxious, the rest are just straight up trope laden creeps.

I’ve never understood it appealing to the culture it portrays as it seems to be relentlessly mocking it with low hanging stereotypes.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

I thought they were

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[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Beavis and Butthead. It's a great show now. It was a great show then.

My wife insists she hates it but sometimes I can hear her giggling when she hears it from a room over.

Even people who proclaim that they hate it when they secretly don't?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I hate it because I think the drawing style is awful. I can't enjoy entertainment that is visually unappealing.

[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Have you never read a book?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 5 days ago

I read almost every day. Plain text is very pleasing to the eye. Bad animation, not so much.

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[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (20 children)

"Nu Trek", ie. Star Trek: Discovery and maybe Strange New Worlds depending on how deranged the person whinging about "Nu Trek" is.

edit: oh look, proof in the comments

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Disc didn't grab me, SNW started off solid but man, now it just seems to be shitpost eps. Lower decks had more coherency than the last two s3 offerings.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's actually all garbage but at least the movies were better than whatever Marvel slop is being churned out these days. It's just a gigantic drop in quantity if you compare it to the previous shows that were written by literate folks with at least secondary education and not whatever free LLMs that Kurtzman guy and friends are using to write their shows, lol.

I don't even care because I understand IPs and titles can be easily bought, I never expected any quality just because the shows share the same name. 🤷

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Everything Alex Kurzman touches turns it to a steaming pile of shit.

SNW has been OK, so far and i have a hunch that Alex has been in the sidelines, but the newest season has started to smell like him.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

Oh yeah, all nu trek shield just burn in a big fire

Wanna make sci-fi? Go ahead, I'll wait, all fine

Wanna make shitty sci-fi? Sure, go ahead. I won't watch it but you do you

Wanna take a 50 year old franchise, with endless amounts of information and events to adhere to, a show with a certain mind set... You wanna take that, and change everything about it, change the feel good into a gritty everything sucks and everyone is horrible, change the nicely well lit and shot Show to something with only flashy dutch angles and flares and glares? Wanna change the interesting gripping stories into dull pew pew we all are traumatized now? Wanna make your show using people who either don't know or hate the show? Wanna make that show and use it's popularity for your own political bullshit messages?

Yeah, please don't?

Watch the Orville instead. Anyone that loved TNG and DS9 will see within two episodes that this show is he teal successor to star Trek, made by people who love trek.

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