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The orange bastard thinks Junior is one and the same, except Junior is more of a Marcos family nerd of sorts, while his sister Imee is now also his archenemy and allied to Duterte, and happens to inherit much more of her father's egomania.

Nonetheless, they are both successful beneficiaries of mass disinformation and hatred. The thing is, however, in terms of political stability the Philippines now seems a lot milder compared to the mounting ongoing oppression in the US.

source: https://bsky.app/profile/nycsouthpaw.bsky.social/post/3luob4ojgr22n

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

0% = 19%

Trump math. Stay in school kids.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Isn't he saying we pay 19% on Phillipine goods while they pay 0% on American goods?

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never understand the ramblings of a pedo and rapist.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Seems less like not understanding and more like intentionally misconstruing because you dont like him.

There's more than enough insane takes he makes that we dont have to make things up to call him on.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

During the president's roughly hour-long address at the Tuesday night event, he predicted the policies of his administration could lead to as much as a 1,000% decrease in drug prices for Americans, if his plan comes to fruition.

Bc this guy understands english? He said they will not pay tariffs in the philippines then, they will pay 19%. Bro's brain is paste.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-says-he-may-use-trade-force-countries-pharma-companies-buy-his-most-favored-nation-provision

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't see that anywhere in the link you posted. It's a link about drug prices which doesn't seem to reference The Phillipines at all.

He's saying that from the Filipino perspective it will be open market, and they won't institute a tariff on American goods, then continues on saying that Filipino goods will have a 19% tariff on them.

It's not the clearest thing in the world, but still easy enough to understand if you try in the least bit.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Phillipines will pay a 19% tariff.

It's in black and white in his post. America, I assume, will pay 0% for filipino goods. That would hurt the Philippines.

Most of their import come from China and other asian countries^1^. Most american products is too expensive the Philippines. Increasing tensions and a current American population that is 100% anti-american involvement in war is bad for the Philippines. He will not come to their aid. Hell the Philippines lost extreme import usaid bc of this bitch^2^.

Also the drug price qoute shows he is a fucking idiot with math and it is in the second paragraph.

1 https://www.worldstopexports.com/philippines-top-10-imports/

2 https://businessmirror.com.ph/2025/01/29/us-aid-to-phl-worth-184-million-part-of-trump-administration-review/

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

No shit he doesn't care a lick about The Phillipines or drug proces or literally anything but his own self-interest, but that's not what you said. You said he contradicted himself by saying zero and then nineteen. But he said The Phillipines would approach American products with an open market, and the American market would put a 19% tariff on goods for the Phillipines. Misconstruing that very simple statement is either a bone head interpretation or an intentional misrepresentation of what he said.

Which is, frankly, mystifying cause what he's actually saying is still deeply harmful and self-involved. The only reason I can fathom for making that kind of vapid interpretation is to continue a trend of isolating and fanaticizing the two sides even more, which only benefits those who don't want an beneficial resolution to this garbage train of a decade.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Steel man him a little harder?

OPEN MARKET 0 TARRIF β€”-> the Philippines will pay 19% tariff . You really don’t see how that’s a little unclear?

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

A little unclear, yes, but not so unclear that someone couldn't discern what he means with a little basic thought put into it.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

This is just nonsense, no matter who said it. The fact that somebody who usually misrepresents and lies about basically everything doesn't help.

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think he is saying that America pays 0% tax to Philippines while they in return pay 19% tax for all American goods.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yeah, but that's just him saying the Philippines pays for the Tariffs, which is false. He set a 19% Tariff on goods bought by U.S. companies for products coming from the Philippines.

Hypothetical: So if McDonald's buys potatoes from the Philippines for $1.

They pay $1.19. 19 cents to the treasury of the U.S., $1 to the Philippines company they bought from.

So then McDonald's sells those products and recooperates the cost, by selling the fries to us for more, to make up the 19 cents lost.

It hurts the Philippines by making it more expensive to buy from them, it hurts us by our costs going up. The idea is that maybe it will be cheaper to get the potatos here in the U.S. instead.. but it would still cost higher than $1.19 to get them here, so they would still buy them from there..and pay more

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago

Aka hidden tax for the Common Folk of America

πŸ₯³ stable genius

/s

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for explaining it. Makes sense now. This is what Trump has been advocating previously, in hopes to increase domestic production.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah unfortunately it only works if the wages in the country you are buying from are close enough to the U.S. that 19% would offset the difference.

As an example the largest export of the Philippines is Coconut oil.

Phillipines production cost - $1.65-$2.14/kg

U.S. production cost- $3.04-6.70/kg

So we would have to have at minimum 84% tariffs for the costs to break even, then we would need large areas of land (able to grow them) to dedicate to the $2 billion dollars worth of coconut oil we import from there, and a labor group who would produce it .. which would require the workers we are currently deporting.

So the numbers show, he just taxed companies 19% in the U.S. in coconut oil, which they will pass on to U.S. citizens in the sales price. Because it is still way cheaper than us making it here, so no new jobs will be created

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

No that's not what he's saying.

If you live in the US and you want to buy coconut milk from Philippines you will have to pay a 10% tariff.

If you live in the Philippines and buy whatever thing the US produces you will pay no tariff.

Its the dumbest self-own.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

Ferdinand "Bongbong" Romualdez Marcos Jr.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bongbong_Marcos

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Japan and the Philippines... Which countries host us military bases atm? I smell some coercion.

[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Japan has most of the bases, but half the Japanese feel like chafing while wearing the American security blanket and the other half itching to modify or repeal Article 9 for rearmament, while the PH -- no formal US basing since 1992 -- is naked in the face of Mainland Chinese aggression and needing the investments of any kind, even if they have to deal with a two-faced liar and his vicious cabinet and legislature.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

Wait LDP lost? Someone might finally break what has practically been a 1-party state since the war?

its the fascists

Fuck.

Japan dude needs the win right now. He lost the election but is still trying to stay in power.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Was he visited by the ghost of Philippines past?

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, the current president is also called Ferdinand Marcos.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He’s also the son of the first Ferdinand Marcos. Who was an infamous dictator btw.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember seeing the talks about the last election. People were shocked that he would even be considered, let alone win, just because of what his parents did. They stole from the people and lived the life of luxury while everyone else got nothing. Once they were outed, they were forced out, I think? Then the people got in and saw just how much they stole. I'm pretty sure the new kid promised he was not like his parents and would never be that way, but why anyone believes that is beyond me... I haven't actually heard anything since. Is he OK or exactly what you would expect?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wife's Filipino, grew up under Marcos, calls herself a loyalist. 🀷🏻

She loved him. Says he modernized the state, built roads and hospitals and universities they had never had before. She can go on for quite some time about the reforms Marcos initiated. Also, being Asian, she had zero problem with him murdering loads of drug dealers. It's hard to overstate how much Asians hate drugs after what Europeans did to them. Looking at you Britain.

Sounds like he stole a lot, but also enriched the country as a whole. I wasn't there, my opinion is invalid, just repeating what she's shared.

[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

but also enriched the country as a whole

Superficially. Most of those projects were for show, much similar to Ceausescu, but kept a lot of glaring poverty hidden from visitors, some whole slums either behind tall walls or just demolished en masse. During most of the 20-year reign more than half the loans the Marcoses acquired and meant for development were instead spent on luxuries.

What kept the Marcoses from being thrown into jail was not only an army of lawyers but also their personality cult, many of them were once children during their regime (hence why the Marcoses heavily invested in some public education in addition to controlling media).

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

I fear my wife was a "cultist", but she was there, I was not. Guess it's like my middle-class upbringing during Reagan seemed great. 80s America was great! But the shockwaves are still felt today.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

an infamous dictator with American backing, it should be said

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 2 points 1 day ago

And has the same initials as Francis Magellan. And was literally born on 9/11.

Just funny coincidences. His wife, Imelda Marcos, is still alive and reaping the benefits of their dictatorship.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The current president of the Philippines is Bongbong Marcos

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Bongbong is a nickname, and a kind of clunky one in English (rolls off the tongue in Tagalog). His name is Ferdinand Marcos Jr.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks! Looked it up and was confused. My wife is still at work, couldn't ask.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Oh nice, thanks for the info