because it kind of is?
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Seem to be mixed opinions of this here.
I'm of the opinion sex workers should not be criminals and need protections, but sex work should not be encouraged. A longterm goal of reducing it through improvement of the conditions and targeting causes is what I would prefer.
Balancing that is never going to be easy but seems right.
This is the most correct take in the thread tbh
It's just really difficult to say what's right to do with something like Only Fans. I think it makes getting into sex work far too easy and far too normalised, on top of creating a massive corporation that has a vested interest in normalising sex work in society and is actively using professional marketing and other methods to achieve that.
It seems heavy handed to shut down something so many sex workers obviously rely on but at the same time I can't see how you would handle it otherwise? Maybe a smoking approach would work? Rather than outright prohibition you could make laws banning the advertising of services related to sex work, banning branded advertising, banning visible brands, etc etc. Force it into the dark. Individual sex workers wouldn't be affected by this much but a large company built on sex work like Only Fans would be targetable. This would probably kill the business' ability to exist at all though so it's possibly the same thing as banning it but through a more detached method.
I think a huge problem is how it exists on social media in the most exploitative way possible, which has driven demand way up.
I literally cannot scroll Instagram without being shown onlyfans girls. The algorithm has sensed I am a young man, and as such I need BBL's on my feed. It's in short formats too, with optimised attention-catching editing/text/structure or whatever. It's insane that it exists on an app which so many children use, and it's insane that so much of it can be served up alongside normal content.
Yeah it is absolutely everywhere and in that regard I don't fault China's analysis that some have translated as saying it is a "disease".
It has contributed MASSIVELY to a rise in sex work in my opinion, but finding information on that is a mess because of the muddied terminology between compensated sex activities vs pornographic sex work. I think we can all at least agree an increase in sex work is not a good thing and aiming not to increase the population of sex workers who are in the massive majority women.
Yeah there's defo been an explosion of it, and i suppose it's better that the pornstars have more autonomy over their body/work than they would on porn sets of the past where the abuse is rampant, but at the same time it's sad how easy it is to just start posting on it and how normalised it's become.
I've known quite a few people to do it for some extra money - that they didn't even necessarily need - because they figured they're a sex positive person and don't mind doing the minimum level of taking nude pictures for money - but soon enough they realised that it can be a very degrading process, and you get all sorts of weird people from your past suddenly watching your 'content' and it doesn't feel good. And then it's out there online, and someone's got those pictures to do whatever they want with.
At the end of the day it's also still exploitative in a literal labour sense because Onlyfans takes a big cut.
While the (re-)ban probably happened this article doesn't link to any sources for its claims, which makes me suspicious about the claimed quotes by government officials about "Western moral decay" and whatnot.
Country where porn is banned, bans porn.
More like country where porn is banned and Western social media sites are blocked blocks Western social media site designed around porn.
Good
amid rising online control
WeSSterners love to moralize about everything lmao
The UK government just outlawed every not-just-softcore-porn site but gaming mod sites, blogs that feature alcohol, lots ofremoved crisis & LGBTQ+ advice sites, and more if you don't pay for government ID & then upload it to a dodgy, unrelgulated third party company.
Meanwhile we're arresting people for literally any and all support or reference to Palestine under terrorism laws, while actual racist mob pogroms go on.
We are so far past petty "authoritarianism".
The Anglos were firebombing mosques because a Christian man killed a bunch of kids. They're not exactly the brightest.
As a Floridian, I can't access pornhub and a number of other porn sites because the state says I need to give them my id first.
I can't fathom buying porn, like they could stop making porn right now and you'd have content for the rest of your life but your actually paying money to masturbate? It's free
I think you are paying for the parasocial relationship with the performer
Yeah and that's where I'm like "so this is something losers do?" and idk why it's not treated like watching anime was 10 years ago
I think it definitely is something "losers" do, although I think it might be healthier than most of the other incel-adjacent treats? (The bar is literally on the floor)
I remember years ago I used to watch Trisha Peytas and remembered a kid no older than 14 went up to her in public and showed her he was subscribed to her OF
I think you might have a point
the western mind can't comprehend going on a date and spending the night in an affordable apartment in the city
Common China W
I support any and all attempts by the People's Republic of China to shut down Western sites.
Probably the correct answer for the wrong reasons. Sex work (I assume) still exists in China, but OF seemed predatory for both the consumers and the models. My understanding of the platform is based on a small amount of info from a while back, but I’m guessing it’s only gotten worse since then.
The only models that make noticeable money need to do A LOT to get to that point — there was (is) this weird impression that attractive women can just sell nudes and get out of having to do real work, but the reality is that OF is very competitive.
For consumers, I’m pretty sure you need to enter a payment method just to make an account, even if you only want free content. That means they can hijack your body’s strongest urges to get you to buy more content. And then there’s the whole thing with 3rd parties catfishing people.
Taken from the true_anon sub about this.