Kson just now said that she quit too. Just a few minutes ago. Seems she too hasn't received payments.
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Since September last year, that's a long time to not pay a talent, I'm being she's not the only one too.
Yeah, seems no one was getting paid.
This is pretty much the end for the agency, it sounds like lawsuits and possible criminal actions will follow. I always saw them as very fucking hinky with their actions and some of their talent's conduct (Froot specifically), but this is beyond the pale.
I hope all the talent is able to thrive without such a toxic agency. That said, I think we're seeing the bubble pop.
That said, I think we're seeing the bubble pop.
It's obviously time to invest in the upcoming next bubble of AI VTubers who don't need pay /s
What did Froot do?
Not OP, but I personally found Froot to be kinda sketchy even just for that tweet about donating to a Trans Charity which she never ended up doing, at least to my knowledge.
Then there’s the cheating allegations but they’re, well, allegations so I wouldn’t judge her for that. The charity tweet was public though, there’s no doubt about it.
Wasn't the cheating thing likely a lie spread by her abusive ex?
Nobody will ever know, probably. They both claim things that I’m pretty sure could be legal ground for a lawsuit, but neither has filed one. To me, the situation smells like they both have a lot of shit on each other and would have much more to lose than to gain if everything came to light.
But then again, it’s just an opinion and we know nothing for sure about the whole situation. The charity thing is much more damning.
They both claim things, but one side (Froot) has put forward receipts after a long time of being harassed over it and the other one hasn't. This doesn't smell like a 'both sides' case to me.
Regarding the charity thing, indeed, but:
- it was found out that the charity (Mermaids UK) might be doing unethical things
- it was going to be her own money, not charity donations from her viewers
I do think it would've been better if she then picked a different charity, but she was already getting harassed for even donating to a transfocused charity to begin with.
Are the "receipts" the screenshots? Because it's still nothing that couldn't have been fabricated. And even if they were legitimate, I just find it so weird to me that she could sue him for all those sexual crimes PLUS online harassment and defamation and she... just hasn't. If the harassment has gotten to this point don't think there's any other reason not to do that except A) your claims aren't true or B) your claims are true but you know his ones are too.
And the most damning thing about the charity is that, to my knowledge, she never addressed it ever since. If the charity wasn't trustworthy, just say it. If it turned out to be way too much money, just say it. Not saying anything just means you wanted to look good without actually following through.
I don't think she deserves all the hate that she's getting, but I can understand why people would be turned off by her.
Over half a million dollars is a lot of money to owe, especially when you don't legally own it in the first place, I understand why there has been so many people leaving the company as of late now (vtubers and senior staff).
I'd consider mousey to be the face of vshojo and without her I'm sure they're as good as gone, I guess a new company will have to become fosters home for abandoned vtubers.
This also makes me wonder if this information is related to matara's termination.
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU G--Someone fucked with the money straight into their pocket, this whole thing smells of fee fi foe fraud
Rest in Piss VShojo.
I hope all the talents manage to get over this and are allowed to leave to company.
Holy crap that’s huge. And apparently most (if not all) of the other members removed Vshojo mentions from their Twitter.
Is it really so hard to just… not screw over your talents?
I listened to both Mousey and Geega. We know Mousey and the Foundation are being owed money. Geega refused to answer directly if she was owed any as well but said she tried to get positioned for a good outcome when anything happens and mentioned thinking about potentially sending a truck to get merch stock if it comes to it.
To me that sounds like Geega expects VShoujo might enter bankruptcy proceedings. I hope it doesn't come to that because then not everyone is going to see all their money.
Either way it feels like Vshojo has no clean way back from this. There will probably be an exodus of talents.
I know Geega will be fine she did this indy stuff before and has a high degree of maturity in matters of business.
For Mousey I'm a little worried emotionally. Even though she has a good support system with Connor and the boys and Zen and Mel and many other friends, I feel like she will be taking this very hard.
I'm worried for Henya too. She still seems like she needs the support circle a lot, with the language barrier and everything as well. She was happy to be officially part of something and might be shy if she was an indie despite everyone telling her they can still collab.
Oh and the JP branch! No idea how things work for them. Maybe if they have JP managers something can be split off over there without being corrupted?
Michi and Kuro are also kind of hard cases, as relatively recent previous nijisanji victims.
Mel can probably handle it, she has a strong indy history, though it will be emotionally hard as she was strongly connected to vshoujo early on. And the timing with her move is horrible.
Sydney doesn't need Vshojo at all, not worried for her.
Froot and Haruka I know the least about among the EN ones, I think they were both personally struggeling already so this is not great. But I have the impression that Froot, Haruka, Zentreya, and Arielle form a pretty good group that can help each other.
Kson will probably be fine too. She has the independant streak anyway as one of the big names to leave holo early on.
Kson just talked to JP ceo on stream and said that she also have/want to quit. She also hasn't received payments it seem; a "Ferrari amount of money."
well shit
that's such a big sum withheld from mousey. she doesn't deserve this. she did so much for vshojo
i hope vshojoJP is a separate entity but with a name like that I don't it matters short of rebrand or dissolution and making a new company. I'm less worried for kson and henya, more worried for the nova girls
I'm heartbroken and disappointed with vshojo. fuck them. but the JP CEO, makino, did try to separate JP and EN, but now with a lot more vsj talents speaking up, there's no chance in hell EN is going to let JP separate. Especially so that if makino is to be believed, JP side was doing well.
Therefore EN really did fucked up lots.
Additional interesting levelheaded perspective from Geega: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsv0U6cTiHw
Well then
RIP VShojo.