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by Caitlin Johnstone
Jul 18, 2025

It’s 2025. Israeli soldiers are telling the Israeli press that they’re being ordered to massacre starving civilians trying to obtain food from aid centers. Countless doctors have been telling the world that Israeli snipers are routinely, deliberately shooting children in the head and chest throughout the Gaza Strip. Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and all the leading genocide experts and human rights authorities are saying that a genocide is being perpetrated in Gaza. The New York fucking Times just published an op-ed by a Zionist genocide scholar who’s finally admitting that it’s a genocide.

There’s no way to deny what this is anymore. If you still support Israel in the year 2025, it’s not because you don’t believe Israel is committing horrific atrocities. It’s because you believe those horrific atrocities are good, and you want to see more of them.

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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Westerners need to realize that this also extents to the countries that support Israel. If you still support the USA, or the UK, or Germany, there is as much something wrong with you as a person as any Israel supporter.

[–] head_socj@midwest.social 3 points 22 hours ago

Lol you think the West has just become the baddies?

[–] EverXIII@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Netanyahu must be stopped. And Israel supporters too. Maybe the UK should take all Israelis people and give back the land tho its rightful owners… free Palestine!

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

What 2025?
This monstrosity should've never been created.

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

100% this. it's a pill many people still don't want to swallow. how you could deny there's a genocide and Israel is a bad actor is beyond me. there's literal children who know better

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Not after the IDF gets to them...

[–] AnActOfCreation@programming.dev 1 points 20 hours ago

Is the site down for anyone else? I've been trying to read this article for a couple days but it looks like it got the Lemmy hug of death!

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Don't make these sweeping generalizations!

Just because I don't support Israel doesn't mean there isn't something wrong with me as a person! /s

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I mean, there's definitely something wrong with me as a person. But it's not because I don't support Israel!

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 83 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Supporting Israel at any time was wrong. Israel is an invader.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

100% agree.

but want to sprinkle a wee bit of nuance.

Israel had (and still has) a massive propaganda campaign.

given information available, it would be easy for most people to come up with a vague "both sides" issue, or "they are terrorists and Israel is doing what it can to protect civilians from jihadi islamists"... Unless someone tried digging a bit and learn for themselves.

However, after this latest phase of the genocide, everyone has seen dismembered babies, the endless humanitarian nightmares. and it wasn't hiding anywhere, everyone on practically every social media saw it.

After this genocide, the only way anyone could support Israel, is if they have serious deficiency in some basic human emotions.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Yep. Ignorance is normal, but this genocide has been so blatant, proud, prolonged and prominent in media and institutions (e.g. ICC) that for most people, ignorance is no longer a reasonable excuse.

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 21 hours ago

They are settlers, they NEED to do genocide, the premise of Israel is a "jewish first state". Its not a country like china or switzerland or nepal.

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[–] AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (21 children)

Is it still auntiesemitic to say death to israel now

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