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by Caitlin Johnstone
Jul 18, 2025

It’s 2025. Israeli soldiers are telling the Israeli press that they’re being ordered to massacre starving civilians trying to obtain food from aid centers. Countless doctors have been telling the world that Israeli snipers are routinely, deliberately shooting children in the head and chest throughout the Gaza Strip. Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and all the leading genocide experts and human rights authorities are saying that a genocide is being perpetrated in Gaza. The New York fucking Times just published an op-ed by a Zionist genocide scholar who’s finally admitting that it’s a genocide.

There’s no way to deny what this is anymore. If you still support Israel in the year 2025, it’s not because you don’t believe Israel is committing horrific atrocities. It’s because you believe those horrific atrocities are good, and you want to see more of them.

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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 83 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Supporting Israel at any time was wrong. Israel is an invader.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

100% agree.

but want to sprinkle a wee bit of nuance.

Israel had (and still has) a massive propaganda campaign.

given information available, it would be easy for most people to come up with a vague "both sides" issue, or "they are terrorists and Israel is doing what it can to protect civilians from jihadi islamists"... Unless someone tried digging a bit and learn for themselves.

However, after this latest phase of the genocide, everyone has seen dismembered babies, the endless humanitarian nightmares. and it wasn't hiding anywhere, everyone on practically every social media saw it.

After this genocide, the only way anyone could support Israel, is if they have serious deficiency in some basic human emotions.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Yep. Ignorance is normal, but this genocide has been so blatant, proud, prolonged and prominent in media and institutions (e.g. ICC) that for most people, ignorance is no longer a reasonable excuse.

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago

They are settlers, they NEED to do genocide, the premise of Israel is a "jewish first state". Its not a country like china or switzerland or nepal.

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Even in 850 BCE they were genociding the Canaanites.