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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't remember the names of most interchangeable tankie fuckwads, but I presume, from the mention of NCD, that this is the one that opted to call the Tiananmen Square massacre as perpetrated by "CIA militants" fighting with the glorious PLA who were only heroically defending themselves against Amerikkkan aggression.

"Socialists are routinely assassinated"

Damn, is it 1970 again?

The simping for propaganda and totalitarian surveillance of the population is amusing, in a grim, dark, "Fascists are so fucking braindead" kind of way.

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It's the most fantasy-ridden drivel, like old pop culture war movie type communist. They don't have a fucking toe in reality I stg.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wouldn't even call China communist, that's giving their propaganda too much credit. At most it's a dictatorship in a red trench coat

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I don't understand why they would be. There are two definitions of communism I see people use. Marx was talking about a society where the workers were in charge. Who in their leadership was ever something like a factory worker? I'm seeing a lot of people who got degrees and moved to comfy government jobs right out of college. Their families maybe. A lot went on "worker peasant student" grants. I can use words too, but I don't see many working the mines themselves. Especially after being in government for so long. When is the last time one of these suits picked up a pitchfork? But then the other definition seems disingenuous to me, because I almost always hear it from the right. It's " when guberment ".

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I just want to point out that tankie and communist aren’t synonymous. There are some communists that are pretty cool. I don’t necessarily endorse all of their economic ideas but they’re not disturbed cult members who want me killed so they got that going for them.

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Huh. Hadn't figured a distinction, but I don't doubt it. I just hate having this slammed down my throat and felt I could dish back better logic.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The Communist Manifesto is linked in the sidebar - good and a pretty short read.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Honestly, if someone wants me killed, that's generally the least of my beef with them.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Communism IS NOT (supposed to be) fascism by another name, and the fact you pretend it is says a great deal about how pathetically miniscule your understanding of the political spectrum is.

... Note that Tankies often completely ignore this basic fact of communism as well, but that doesn't magically change what communism is (supposed to) be.

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It truly sounds to me like you guys just need to find a better word at this point. Communism has turned into the USSR, PRNK, and the CCP. You cannot worship this thing and muddy the waters by upholding truly abhorrent examples of the thing you claim is and is not communism.

Any and every single party system, including fascism, communism, and monarchy, are oppressive. Full stop.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Constantly redefining things because trolls troll is literally capitulating to the worst of humanity. Why should we have to start from scratch just because a few pieces of shit decided to poison the well? Why is it so hard for everyone to redefine a word to THE ACTUAL ROOT WORDS it's made from?

Sometimes the problem is not the word but the sheer intellectual lazyness of everyone else. I ask again: Why do we need a different word when the word LITERALLY AND DEMONSTRABLY does not mean what the fascist regimes want it to mean?

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Yep all anyone has to do is look at popular culture right now. Most of the people who Proclaim to be Libertarians can't even be consistently libertarian. To the point where honestly they're just capitalists. Then you get people on the right claiming to be anarchists as well. With similar outcomes. They're just capitalists under another moniker. If there's one thing capitalists and pulls alike love to do is double-speak/newspeak. And redefining terms to mean whatever they want.

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If this is too low effort, mods feel free to remove. Please lmk where I might post this :)

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's welcome here!

[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago

aint no way they got chats on lemmy