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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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[–] yourgodlucifer@sh.itjust.works 52 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Leviticus 19:33-34

33 “‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God

Ban the bible god is too woke

You know these fuckers have never read a book.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

And it says the opposite, treat foreigners from other countries and living among you as the people groups you can kidnap slaves from

Lev 25: 44-46 "As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations around you that you may acquire male and female slaves. 45 You may also acquire them from among the aliens residing with you and from their families who are with you who have been born in your land; they may be your property. 46 You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, for them to inherit as property. These you may treat as slaves, but as for your fellow Israelites, no one shall rule over the other with harshness.

[–] Bigfishbest@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, and if someone thinks Leviticus, which was Jewish law more than 3000 years ago is still relevant for modern society, then I have a rather long list of inconsistencies and absurdities to show, aptly summarized by Martin Sheen in the west wing series.

[–] sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, two different points here.

The one point is that not everything in Leviticus is wrong just because it's in Leviticus. The idea that we can't mix fibers or plant different types of crops in the same field? Not relevant. The idea that we should love our fucking neighbor? Care for refugees fleeing persecution? Still relevant. Even more relevant now than it was 3000 years ago, now that we're facing a refugee crisis greater than any other in human history.

The United States is not a fucking lifeboat. We're not going to sink if we give too many poor people from Mexico jobs.

Being a decent person and caring for other people is still fucking relevant.

The other point is that American Christians claim the Bible is the true and literal word of God, and then ignore the parts of it they don't like.

Because if you can decide, you know, that one part of the Bible that tells you to welcome the stranger or love your neighbor as yourself is not actually the word of God and doesn't have to be obeyed, why should we think the bits in the Bible about eternal life in Christ and eternal conscious torment in Hell are any more real?

If the Bible isn't to be taken literally, salvation isn't to be taken literally, is what I'm getting at. And if you don't believe in salvation, why be a Christian at all?

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, isn't the bad stuff also still "relevant" though? What's the standard there? The Bible also says to treat people terribly, in ways that do seem relevant to modern life. Maybe we don't have literal slaves in the same way, but we accept coercive and underpaid labor conditions for immigrants. There's a part that says to kill homosexuals, and it's not like hate crimes aren't still a reality. Don't you have to ignore the parts you don't like in order to only follow the parts that say to care for others?

[–] sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What's the standard there?

The standard, for me, is to throw out the ignorant superstitious bullshit (like taking enemy civilians as slaves and killing homosexuals) and keep the timeless moral principles (like loving your neighbor as yourself).

Because I'm not a Christian. I respect the Bible as part of my cultural heritage, not as divine revelation. And I'm happy to throw out the bullshit and focus on the good stuff.

And I'm going to ask Christians "if you really believe in the Bible why do you ignore the parts about loving your neighbor" because hopefully it'll get them to think about what they believe and become better people as a result.

And I'm not going to ask them "if you really believe in the Bible why don't you take your neighbors as slaves" for the fucking obvious reason that convincing them to take their neighbors as slaves won't make them better people.

Makes sense?

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Well no, because the line between "superstitious bullshit" and "timeless moral principles" seems to be one you chose, where the standard is your own values. So it doesn't make sense to me to criticize people for picking and choosing, when the real issue is that the line they chose between what parts are good or bad reflects values that are bad for reasons other than religion.

[–] Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

I agree with this a lot. The people who are the issue have no code of ethics that aligns with the Bible to yield a communal good outcome. They use it for a personal good outcome. Therefore, we would be arguing on completely different terms where we are each picking and choosing parts that we like to defend our opinion while ignoring the other side's same logic. This makes the source material valueless because it has no consistency throughout its teachings where the two parties differ the most.

[–] Disaster@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

And now let's followup on the nuances of both of these positions. Go on... do a debate. As a treat.

Truth, justice, and the American way? Sounds pretty woke to me.

[–] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This is almost certainly a distraction from the epstein shit going on. They're desperately trying to avoid questioning the obvious lies from the admin regarding his list of clients.

Please don't engage with this culture war bullshit.

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The rehashed Epstein bullshit is a distraction from the little girls that the felon traitor MURDERED in Texas.

[–] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

You're not wrong. It's all part of the Firehose.

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He’s quite literally an illegal alien.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fun fact, they made the Apollo astronauts go through customs when they came back from the moon.

Good thing none of them forgot their passport, getting deported back to the moon must be a hell if a headache.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was a joke by the State of Hawaii, from my understanding.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, it was clearly at least partly in jest, but apparently the form was real and they really did go through customs for real.

https://www.space.com/7044-moon-apollo-astronauts-customs.html

It does make sense. I don't think they wanted to set the precedent that coming back from certain types of spaceflight "didn't count" in terms of needing to pass through customs and it was just a free-for-all. It's the same way you still have to pay your taxes when you're the president, a relic of an older and more adherence-to-the-system time than the modern day.

It also drives home the old idealistic 'space is not owned, space is not for war' thing they were trying to push, at least in public, at the time.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Reminder that this felon rapist president, the GOP, and their propaganda networks are traitors to the United States of America and democracy in general.

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago

I'll never forget that. Every single filthy fucking magat is too.

[–] renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

they made superman woke!!11!!!1!!

[–] taco@piefed.social 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I bet Spiderman. If the third Spiderverse movie ever comes out it'll be full woke.

[–] taco@piefed.social 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, they'll probably do something ridiculous like make the next Spider-man black.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If the third Spiderverse movie ever comes out

Aren't there already like 19 or so? Or is "Spiderverse" one of the specific branches rather than much more logically being the term for all of them?

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm referring to Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse and its direct sequel Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse. A third movie to finish the trilogy is stuck in development hell.

If you haven't seen these two, I highly recommend them.

They're kind of gonzo with the animation budget, including scenes where every character is animated in a different style, and kind of diagetically metafictional.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

What're they going to do next, make him move from the country to the city? Make him marry a woman who out ranks and out performs him at work? Make him protect protect people for free as a service to his community, nation and world? Make him fight a billionaire capitalist? Make him fight against injustice in our systems? Make him empathize with humanity on a fundamental level? Make him refuse to kill?

Jesus, next they'll make Green Arrow a lefty!

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

All of those fox news hosts should ... what happened go Joseph Goebbels, again?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago

Suicide. That's too good for him and too good for the lead propagandists of the American Fascist Movement.

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

ManSuper-13

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It's right there if you know how to interpret the symbol.