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So Obamacare, Medicaid, and SNAP are pretty decimated.

Is the United States going to be the kind of country to let it's poorest and most vulnerable die in the streets of starvation or treatable disease and medical conditions?

I am afraid to be in the United States because I fear some kind of proletariat uprising. I would not want to be in Compton or Watts when the EBT gets shut off.

I believe that the main purpose of SNAP and EBT is to pacify the lower levels of society so they do not get too upset and organized for a major uprising. Well, that is gone.

I myself am on SSDI, Medicaid, and Medicare although I am working now and trying to establish a career. I feel like the elite in the United States just wants to kill off the lower classes.

Are my concerns unfounded?

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[–] the_abecedarian@piefed.social 6 points 6 hours ago

You're afraid of your own class when you should be meeting, building trust, and organizing with them.

The capitalists hate and fear their own workers and yes, would rather they live at the edge of survival rather than give up a cent of profit. The govt is putting force behind that by cutting benefits, hiring cops, and building prisons.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The eye-popping expansion of ~~the American Gestapo~~ICE, and the deployment of army and national guard within the US - since Posse Commitatus has been thrown out the window - all but ensure that there won't be any uprising any time soon. And when there is eventually, millions will die.

Welcome to Nazi America. The Americans wanted it, they voted for it, and now they have it.

[–] buttholechris@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Will people in the military ever realize that they are acting against the interests of most Americans?

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 6 hours ago

Even the Waffen SS felt uncomfortable murdering innocent civilians, both in Germany and abroad. But guess what: they still did it.

That's the power of military training. What makes you think US military will behave any different when the time comes?

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This is what I have been wondering. It is their duty to refuse to follow illegal orders.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Soldiers are indoctrinated into obeying orders despite their best judgment. That's how human beings convince other human beings to voluntarily lay down their lives in someone else's interests and against their own.

They are also told in no uncertain terms that they'll face prison or execution if they refuse to obey.

So while they are cutely told they have a duty to disobey illegal orders, practically they are heavily biased towards doing the exact opposite.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

No. Americans are Americans. We're cooked.

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago

The funding of ICE doesn't mean that the military, ICE, FBI, etc. outnumber the American civilian population, obviously. Now, this doesn't mean that the American citizens are united nor organized nor ideologically aligned, also obviously. And yeah, this is Nazi America. What a lot of doomers fail to point out is that Nazi Germany didn't last forever. And neither will Nazi America. The tragedy of Nazism is multifaceted, but one of those many tragedies is if you just want to live a regular life, you don't have a choice but to fight, either for or against fascism. They force you to choose a side, and then you're in it.

And yeah, the time for mass death on the streets of America instigated by its own government on its own people is here. It is already happening. It has sadly been happening for far longer than most think. It's just a lot more overt now. People make fun of the Leopard's eating right wingers faces. But truthfully, if you're surprised by any of what's going on right nowin the US or any capitalist country, then the Leopard has been eating all of our faces.

The Military will for the most part comply and murder, torture, imprison, and enslave their own mothers, daughters, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters etc.

And then there will just simply be one too many deaths, one too many suicides, one too many rapes, one too many genocides.

And yeah, more violence will ensue as there is a purge of fascists, and hopefully, this time, unlike after the civil war, we hang the traitors, topple their monuments, and defecate on their graves.

And then climate catastrophes will wipe out all humans except those that live closer to the poles. And then we will revert back to a more primitive way of life for better and provably far worse. And perhaps then the anthropocene will mercifully end, and humans will finally just go fucking extinct.

So it will all be not okay and then really not okay and throughout most of the ensuing century and a half, most, if not all, of us will die.

The thing most people are struggling with right now is that they haven't transitioned from the privileged viewpoint that the big question in life is choosing "how do you want to live?", when the only actual choice you have is "how do you preserve your choice of how you are going to die?"

Essentially, the only choice you have is to preserve your right to find your hill to die on, then stare death in the fucking face as you go. Cuz eventually even that choice will be taken from you, so take advantage now like its a fire sale on the last remaining freedom.

Enjoy all these positive vibes.