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The story began in early 2017, when Abigail Piland was born without any obvious problems. But when the midwife who helped deliver her checked back the next day, Abigail didn’t look healthy. The midwife told mother Rachel Piland to take the child to a hospital because the baby “could suffer brain damage or die if not properly cared for.”

Rachel refused, insisting “God makes no mistakes.”

Days later, Abigail was dead. (Rachel and her husband Joshua then prayed for Abigail’s resurrection. Surprise: That didn’t work, either.)

A medical examiner later attributed the death to “unconjugated hyperbilirubinemia and kernicterus,” both jaundice-related problems that were treatable. Abigail never had the chance to see a doctor when blood was coming out of her mouth, or when she wasn’t eating, or when her skin became further discolored. All because her parents put more trust in God than someone who could actually help.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

this site should be banned. It's posting crypto "news" aka misinformation after each of their posts. They use Murder Porn to get eyes on their site so they can push their bs crypto nonsense on to their visitors.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Amazing. They believe in God, they pray for their babies health, and when He sends the midwife to save the baby, they ignore His sign.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think God stays in heaven because humans turned out to be far too irritating and self-destructive to be worth dealing with?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

For a more serious answer (from someone who still doesn't believe, especially in the moronic sky daddy of christians)... sort of. God kicked humans out of the garden of eden (and his presence) because humans accepted the gift of knowledge.

Just like how most parents aren't going to solve all of your problems once you're shipped off to college, God's not going to do shit for us. We've been specifically told as much, so religous people constantly praying and expecting miracles is particularly hilarous and pathetic to me. Braindead fools completely ignoring their own teachings.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 6 hours ago

What's the religious equivalent of taking all your laundry home on the holidays so your mother can do it for you? We need that.

Damn those atheist baby killers at planned parenthood! Taking good jobs from pious christians!

You want to know the absolute saddest part of the whole thing? I saw this headline and my first thought was "Oh no, another one of these."

[–] zerofk@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Maybe they’ll find god in prison.

[–] tungsten5@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

There is a family guy episode about something similar. Stewie becomes friends with another kid from a very religious family. The kid has cancer and the parents refuse to get treatment and prefer to pray the cancer away. Crazy that these people actually exist. Though I can’t say that I am surprised…

We really need them out of our world.

[–] imposedsensation@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 8 hours ago

That site is so littered with obnoxious ads that I have trouble taking it seriously.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 7 hours ago

I want to say "unforced error", but that really undersells how fucked up this is.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 59 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

These stupid fucks were mentioned on the Friendly Athiest blog and podcast earlier this year. Look it up. It's a good read / listen.

In a statement read in court, Rachel’s brother, Joel Kerr, said the Pilands “chose their beliefs over their children.” He asked for sentences “sufficiently long that (the couple) can no longer bring life into the world just to snuff it out.”

Monsters. Religion kills. Why do you think abortion is illegal for women who have been raped? Religion.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 8 hours ago

Interestingly the brother isn't fanatical which would seem to suggest that the husband was the one that got Rachel involved in it.

[–] CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

And they claim "God makes no mistakes."

Well, they are the mistakes.

A sentence of menopause in prison is an amazing idea.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

sentences “sufficiently long that (the couple) can no longer bring life into the world just to snuff it out.”

Now that sounds like justice to me.

Could just surgically sterilize them.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of people find Jesus in prison. I don't know what Jesus is in there for, but as lot of people say he is.

[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus was sentenced to life without parole for disorderly conduct while brown.

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 15 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Religion is dangerous on many levels because it is make-believe taken as reality.

This is just one rather simple example of how fucking stupid it is that people still spread and maintain that oldest of lies.

The only good thing about religion is that all the nutjobs believing in it would likely be the ones also susceptible to other ideologies, manipulations and political groupings in oder to be "part of something greater"... and looking at the world I regard the chances of them getting sucked into something that would actually be good for them and World.... as very slim.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The great thing is; you can be a christian and a fascist! At the same time!

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago

Yea, true, the evidence is abundantly there

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

The system will go easy on them, being white, Christian, and Conservative. They'll do a few months. Then they'll have another kid, because bible.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 7 hours ago

The article literally says that they have been convicted for decades.

[–] _skj@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The sentencing is in the article. 20-45 years, largely because they showed no remorse and claimed they would do it again

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 103 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"God makes no mistakes, except doctors and modern medicine."

A just God wouldn't give an innocent child to people like that.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

God appears to have made innumerable mistakes since the dawn of time by my reckoning.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 20 hours ago

What's that old quote about the body being an example of a shitty civil engineer? Something along the lines of: "Only a new civvy puts the playground next to the sewer outflow."

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[–] goofystench@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (4 children)
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[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (8 children)

How liberating it must be to just dump everything single thing on "god's will", and have to worry about nothing, ever.

It's fucking depressing... This isn't even about religion, it's about untreated, likely even undiagnosed, mental illness.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

My mental illness works in mysterious ways

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[–] flemtone@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is why religion is dangerous.

Just one of many reasons.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Is it a good time to discuss parenting licence?

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago

No. There's no ethical way to implement something like that. Even if there was, it's ripe for abuse by the wrong administration.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sounds like a way to prevent "undesirable" people from having children. Just so, so wide open to abuse.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not parenting licenses, but well funded child protective services. Investigations into claims. Serious monitoring of home schoolers.

As I have been trying to get ANYONE to listen to for the past year, for example, the state of Oklahoma actively does not investigate child welfare cases (except occasionally to take away native or Black children.)

The internal phone system at Oklahoma DHS is NOT WORKING. They have the incorrect numbers for several state agencies, and have been forwarding reports intended for the police to a very confused Hispanic man. This is absolutely insane and should be newsworthy, but no one gives a shit.

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