this post was submitted on 05 Jul 2025
181 points (100.0% liked)

news

24159 readers
714 users here now

Welcome to c/news! Please read the Hexbear Code of Conduct and remember... we're all comrades here.

Rules:

-- PLEASE KEEP POST TITLES INFORMATIVE --

-- Overly editorialized titles, particularly if they link to opinion pieces, may get your post removed. --

-- All posts must include a link to their source. Screenshots are fine IF you include the link in the post body. --

-- If you are citing a twitter post as news please include not just the twitter.com in your links but also nitter.net (or another Nitter instance). There is also a Firefox extension that can redirect Twitter links to a Nitter instance: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/libredirect/ or archive them as you would any other reactionary source using e.g. https://archive.today/ . Twitter screenshots still need to be sourced or they will be removed --

-- Mass tagging comm moderators across multiple posts like a broken markov chain bot will result in a comm ban--

-- Repeated consecutive posting of reactionary sources, fake news, misleading / outdated news, false alarms over ghoul deaths, and/or shitposts will result in a comm ban.--

-- Neglecting to use content warnings or NSFW when dealing with disturbing content will be removed until in compliance. Users who are consecutively reported due to failing to use content warnings or NSFW tags when commenting on or posting disturbing content will result in the user being banned. --

-- Using April 1st as an excuse to post fake headlines, like the resurrection of Kissinger while he is still fortunately dead, will result in the poster being thrown in the gamer gulag and be sentenced to play and beat trashy mobile games like 'Raid: Shadow Legends' in order to be rehabilitated back into general society. --

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Metropolitan Police @metpoliceuk · 6h There are a number of events taking place in London this weekend.

Anyone attending should be aware that officers policing these will act where criminal offences, including those related to support of proscribed groups or organisations, are committed.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 day ago

"such as flags"

So wait, is there a Palestine action flag, or are they saying it's illegal to have a Palestine flag?

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 8 points 22 hours ago

I can't believe the guy who sent someone to prison for a tweet would do this smdh

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

Direct actionists have just started calling themselves "unaffiliated" or "yvette cooper". the org also seems to have decent opsec and never had any members beyond its founders and loosely-organised cadres that did workshops in a few cities.

I imagine a few actionists will get charged if they have email or phone comms that link them to PA before the ban, but the UK courts are nothing if a bunch of sticklers for rules and will probably be lenient (as with PA pre-ban) if cases come through the system. Proscription orders cannot apply retroactively.

the risk will be to regular folk who will be harassed and arrested to break up Palestine marches, other solidarity events like fundraisers, and organisers of direct action training/workshops.

Considering the Filton 18 is already being held without trial under terrorism charges, I wonder how much difference it will make to deter or punish actionists. Because if the UK govt never needed proscription to indefinitely hold these people, what is their real goal?

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 58 points 1 day ago

Saw some reports the cops are telling people they can't even display things like "Free Palestine", shit is going downhill fast

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Courageous move by Keir Starmer, in the Yes Minister sense.

Seriously though it's just such an absurd overreaction. They hemorrhaging off their own politicians! They're arresting 84 year old upper class priests!

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

I think it's a massive misstep by the govt. They are pushing PA organising underground for the moment, but dont seem to acknowledge how it will just re-emerge with a new name and new spokespersons just like National Front did.

All the while they've publicly and openly shit the bed trying to look tough like a school prefect who got picked on a few too many times. It doesn't make them look good to the fascists, their own base, or anyone really.

[–] theturtlemoves@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Courageous move by Keir Starmer, in the Yes Minister sense.

I don't think he expects to get re-elected anyway.

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

oh he will get re-elected, no different to how the neoliberal and fascist caucus won reelection in the US for over a generation.

[–] theturtlemoves@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Who'd vote for Reform-lite when they can vote for Reform?

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 day ago

most polling orgs are predicting a reform win
they are the overt fascists

[–] Carcharodonna@hexbear.net 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

The UK is completely off the rails right now.

ukkk

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] Eiren@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thinking of putting up Palestine stuff in my windows just to dare them to come get me.

as long as it isnt support for PA or displays its logo, you have every legal right to do so.

Of course anything construed as support for PA post-ban online could be used if your devices were seized, but that's a lot of resources the cops are only willing to use if they think you're an organiser or actionist. Stay safe!

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 59 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Insane clown country

They should make another group though with a similar ideology and plan of action.

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Literally hours after the ban, actionists smashed up a supplier of Elbit systemsin Scotland and simply claimed they were autonomous. The only real difference is they've stopped wearing red overalls that were Palestine Action's calling card, and used hivis jackets instead.

IMO these actionists are PA in all but name. Note the "drop Elbit" on the wall, which is the core campaign demand of PA. As long as that goal carries forward and actionists continue, the government has failed.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/5283601/cromwell-tools-glenrothes-palestine-graffiti/

There's video of the action but it seemed to have been wiped from instagram since it was under a Pro-PA account.


Here's news on the org naming itself after Yvette Cooper (zionist home secretary) https://www.thenational.scot/news/25291394.new-direct-action-group-yvette-cooper-emerges/

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They already have and they've named it after some zionist politician lol

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow this is just like North Korea and China

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What are we a bunch of Asians?

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

Let me get my calipers and I can check, one sec

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

How long before someone puts on a Guy Fawkes mask and starts throwing knives at cops?

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 54 points 1 day ago
[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay do the american flag next and the nazi flag then, you won't.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Trying to limit our – I mean, their freeze peach? What are you, a bigot?

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So like, that means a UK person can't retweet something that praises them or something like that or they'll have to pay a fine or something?

But in the anglo world they'll still be getting shared around, so a lot of UK people might do that by accident thinking it's fine, can that happen?

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup. Of course these laws are arbitrarily enforced because that would involve rounding up thousands of people with more bark than bite.

They don't care for the lone poster on twitter, but they DO care about organisers and people putting out feelers to become actionists. The rest are selectively harassed or made examples of every now and then to make examples of people.

Courts are backed up as it is, and prison spaces are low, so they're being strategic right now.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

The question is, what happens if too many people start doing things they can't ignore.

[–] git@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago

Up to fourteen years in prison if they want to make an example of you.

In bad country

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

In gommulist nourf korria,,,

[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Coming Soon: Getting UK streamers arrested by making them read out Pro Palestine Action donations.

[–] Koolio@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago

Proscribe these nuts

The left has lacked a singular, uniting point of focus for the last few decades, a rallying cry. We may need to thank politicians for creating one.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago
[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

When everyone is a terrorist, no one is...

load more comments
view more: next ›