I’m ready for all of these vehicles to go up in price. That means the used car market is going to go bonkers again. I have a used truck I’ve been saving to off load on a Republican. I will be waving and laughing as he drives away in an over priced used vehicle.
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Same... I have a Subaru Crosstrek I've been holding on to for 3 months because I knew the used car market is only going to go up.
For me, the best part about this EV is no touchscreen. No CarPlay or whatever integration the car manufacturer supports or doesn’t support. If someone wants to mount a display or iPad on their dash, that’s up to them. I just want to stick my iPhone on the dash for nav and music, one small screen with Home Screen set up for my driving focus.
It's not necessarily the touchscreen for me, as much as the no infotainment/nav that also doubles as the main computer for the vehicle that is always connected and requires OTA updates.
Let’s face it, most buyers will end up spending above $30k with add-ons and modifications. Not a lot of buyers will be willing to leave it unpainted/unprotected and with no stereo/entertainment.
Yeah I guess they can pay $37 k then
Also to be fair, not a lot of people can actually take advantage of the tax credits.
How so? I thought it was a blanket credit: battery made in US, half credit, car assembled in US, the other half.
Tax credit vs tax rebate/refund probably. As I understand it tax credits you can only take advantage of if you pay enough in taxes, as it's essentially a discount on federal taxes that you owe the government.
I see. As I understand it, automakers successfully lobbied for the credits to be used at the sale, so I wonder if that solved that issue. Moot point in two months, anyway.
Yeah, I looked into it myself because I was obviously interested in an EV, but from what I understood, basically if you expect a refund, you get nothing.
The credit is a one time discount off your owed taxes for that one year only.
A lot of local businesses could benefit from a truck like that. I don't listen to music driving, I know I'm on the minority, but we exist. I'm more interested in if the interior is weather rated like a Wrangler. If so, this is a game changer for a weekend car. Get that open top add-on and go have fun.
The other big plus is that you don't need to buy any extra up front. It's all installable at home.
I could totally see no stereo/entertainment, but with no paint how long before it rusts out??
I can live with missing a lot of stuff, but a stereo system with at least bluetooth and AC if you live anywhere that gets even remotely hot are necessities for me.
But I don't live in the US anyway (and I am glad about that), so I cannot get this truck anyway. I am looking forward to something similar being sold here, but in a small van version, that would be my ideal electric car.
I believe the exterior is a composite and specifically made for you to wrap it. here's someone doing it at home. Basically a giant sticker.
So what if you did not wrap it. Would it hold up?
Saturn cars used plastic panels, and they held up better than the company did. No, seriously, I see one every now and then, and the 20-years old panels are fine.
Yes. Like the plastic bumpers on Subaru cars.
Saturn used it and it was fine. according to this article, the plastic expanded and contracted meaning there had to be big gaps and made it unappealing.
What are you on about? It has a coated steel chassis, the paneling is entirely plastic and cant rust. They dont offer paint, but they'll sell the car with a vynyl wrap at extra cost.
Yeah, I couldn't believe the bragging about under $20k while missing basics.
It's the whole point. For 1 it doesn't need paint. If you want a different look, they sell wraps, but why would you bother? The stereo is the only thing people will think is missing. Which you can integrate anything by design. It will already have backup camera and screen, and a phone mount. It's not for everyone, but it's what many people want.
17" infotainment center that breaks and you can't find a replacement because it's different than the new model so you have to buy at high costs, fuck that. I don't need it.
It has AC, cruise control, power locks. I can put a sound bar or stereo system in for a lot cheaper than if pay from a manufacturer. And get something I choose
The other thing is the manual windows. I get it, but automatic windows are just more convenient nowadays.
Yeah but automatic windows you have to deal with the motor breaking over time or the little switch fighting you.
At least in my wife's car from 2019 you press to roll the window up and then it stops and starts going down, so you have to let go and press up again over and over until you make it to the top
Sounds like you need to buy either a new Switch or a new actuator, and both should be available for most cars for under $100, And installing them is typically something done with a screwdriver and possibly a 10 or 13 millimeter wrench.