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[–] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Every human is created equal. But then again - those who believe themselves above other humans and actively hate them and try to strip their freedom away (through race, money, etc) - those I do deem to be less than human, and below me and anyone wanting to live in peace.

The hateful will always have reasons to hate, they actively look for them in everything and base their lives completely on their misery, and their ability to spread it to others like a plague.

If you can't live in a world with people different from you, and you feel the need to harm them, maybe instead of killing them, it'd be easier to get rid of you instead.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

concentration camps and millions being stripped of health insurance and food assistance

So like Gaza?

Because I'm pretty sure this was the logic for people who refused to vote that this very community spent an entire year assuring me was a bunch of tankie bots from ml.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The majority of people who didn't vote for Harris don't care about Gaza. They're just larping on the internet.

She wasn't a zionist and wanted to end the war. It was a clear cut decision, but it was a brown and black sacrifice people were willing to make for their moral purity.

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (25 children)

I was ready to demand my Lefty comrades go vote for Kamala: after all, one Genocide is better than two genocides.

But then she came out "tough on the border" and took that from me. She promised to be every bit as hard as Trump.

https://theweek.com/politics/kamala-harris-immigration-policy-mexico-border

But she worked HARD to alienate the Left. She took every piece of rhetoric I had and shat on it.

So we have Kamala caving on Gaza with rhetoric (and walking it back)

https://forward.com/fast-forward/666427/kamala-harris-does-not-agree-with-protester-who-shouted-genocide-her-campaign-says/

But flatly refusing to do anything:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/crocodile-tears-and-genocide-how-the-gaza-war-is-threatening-kamala-harris-s-white-house-chances/ar-AA1tnGVg

Just like the Liberal Party. Promise almost nothing, make a symbolic gesture, do actually nothing.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/harris-gaza

So when she gets no support, why are Clinton Neoliberal, Reaganomics-poisoned-but-polite Liberals surprised? This is the Country they designed, on purpose.

She wasn't a zionist and wanted to end the war

Citation? Because any time I saw anything indicating that, she IMMEDIATELY walked it back. And I've cited (shitty) sources.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is possible for her to be a bad candidate who made consistently bad decisions, and for it still to be a bad choice for an individual to not vote for her.

source: *gestures in all directions *

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

100% I have voted in every primary until this one bc it was canceled. I still voted for her even though I hated it bc the reality is/was that, of the two choices, she was not the worst.

The time for moral grandstanding is always long past when it’s Election Day.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The time for moral grandstanding is always long past when it’s Election Day.

Good line. And good reasoning before that!

I have voted third party in the distant past. It’s not some awful taboo to not play along with the two party system. And given my extended family, the further back I look in the past the more that right wing stuff just seemed normal, so I may not make the same choice now.

But the time to abstain or go third party is when the price of expressing my more ideal choice is worth not voting against the worse of the 2-party candidates.

I guess the logical exception to that is if you’re an accelerationist and you think we are SO far beyond being able to course correct that it is literally a more moral and humane outcome to turn the nu-neo-nazis loose on just about every vulnerable demographic that exists. Then you get to the rebuild phase faster and there’s less time for the government to kill & ruin people. But you never know if your plan is going to hit a little roadblock called nuclear armageddon.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Again, third party votes did not remotely sway the 2024 election. Blaming protest voters for your candidate’s anemic performance just reeks of entitlement.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah sure, but I wasn’t talking about any of that. It was about the individual decision making process.

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[–] lorski@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I see stuff like this and laugh. It would seem that most Americans, Democrats in particular, cling to the notion that they will have a chance to vote again. If there are midterms or another full election, they will be rigged the same as Russia, North Korea or any other "strongman" dictatorship. Keyboard warriors won't make a whit of difference.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 days ago (7 children)

We need to be thinking about how 77 million Americans voted for Trump and thought that was a good idea.

And we need to work out how to prevent it from happening again.

One thing is clear, billionaires and politicians are unwilling to relinquish power or wealth, even when their holdings are obscene or they are incapable of governing.

We will have to threaten either their lives or the structures on which their holdings depend, and can't bluff. And they will likely choose death over surrender.

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[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

And the worst part?

They probably sleep sounder than you.

[–] imachillin@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (33 children)

You voted though, right? For Harris? That’s the only correct answer.

Non voters + Trump voters + Jill Stein voters brought us into this mess. I haven’t heard anything from Jill Stein, as a leader I hope she’s speaking out too to her base. ~~

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I used the ballot box and voted straight blue, yes.

Really looking like it’s time for the next box and I hate that but no nazi deserves to breathe

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