This is hardly the least scientific anything cops do.
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squeezing the driver's limbs to determine if the muscle tone is "normal" or not;
So basically if the cop decides I'm a weak pussy who skipped arm day, I'm high? Fucking WAT? This isn't even pseudoscience it's just flinging shit at a wall and seeing what sticks lmao, that's dumb.
Oh cool this will target disabled people real well! My twin had like 10 percent average strength in their arms, so guess they're just screwed!
The process involves numerous steps, including tests of physical coordination; checking the driver's blood pressure and pulse; squeezing the driver's limbs to determine if the muscle tone is "normal" or not; and examining pupil size and eye movements.
Steps not mentioned:
- is the suspect Black?
- does the suspect fail to defer to you as an infallible authority?
- have you hit your quota of arrests/citations today?
- are you in a bad mood? Do you need to vent?
Police work is all pseudoscience. And they always get a pass bc they're cops.
Very true. Pretty much everything is made up from something they saw on CSI or NCIS the night before. They are trying hard to make their "industry" cerebral when it just isn't.
100%, look no further than 'excited delirium' smdh
My eyes have been red ever since I got LASIK. 😵💫
Well, yeah. They're only meant as a probable cause machine, not to actually make things safer for anyone. Same as drug dogs basically.
As someone who is in a country without marijuana legalisation, what is wrong with the current laws? Is there a massive spike in deaths where the cause was attributed to marijuana use?
When we keep having these arguments about how our country could possibly legalise given our driving laws, I always point to the tonnes of countries that have already legalised and ask why we need to reinvent the wheel.
Oh, see, you're under the impression that this is about public safety. It's not. It's about giving insurance companies an excuse to deny claims.
Well, it's legal for medical purposes, and the current aussie protocol, AFAIK, is got THC in your system (cheek swab), you lose (and a blood test I think, happy for someone knowledgeable to jump in). Cancer chemo, no (legal) driving for you... This crap would be a step up.
Wow that's fucking stupid.
Gasp!
A brethylizer test for alcohol isn't "objective" either and all it does is create cause to test your blood.
But there is no “breathalyzer” equivalent for marijuana.
What do the mouth swabs test for then?
Metabolites I imagine, which can persist long after intoxication. They are illegal to be used in Maine
What do the mouth swabs test for then?
An excuse to arrest you
They don't measure whether or not you are currently under the influence, and even then, I think they're relatively easy to game.