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[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (25 children)

Wait why are democrats fighting him? I thought he was socialist or something

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 146 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Democrats aren't fighting him, the DNC (Democratic National Convention) is. The party doesn't want him as their representative, because he doesn't match their values. But he represents what the Democrat constituents actually want and the DNC fears losing control over their constituents, so they want to ensure he loses the race.

The DNC and the RNC basically want the same thing, except the Democratic Party is much more subtle about it. The US doesn't actually have a left-wing party. Both our major parties are right-wing by global standards. So any truly left-wing candidates scare them, and they'll fight tooth and nail to keep them out of elections.

Even Cuomo, who was completely stomped in the primaries, is still planning to run in the election as an independent. Their hope is that his run will split the party and make Mamdani lose. If the Democratic Party can't get their man in the election, then they'll throw the race and take everyone down with them.

[–] greenskye@lemmy.zip 86 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The DNC and the RNC basically want the same thing, except the Democratic Party is much more subtle about it.

The old RNC. The new Republicans have taken over and actually do want all the fascist hateful stuff. The old guard courted crazies and those crazies took over.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Which, fuckin' honestly, should be an object lesson for anyone who wants to advance progressive politics in this country. Engage in primary after primary and take over the party from within until the old guard are appalled at what it has become, except do that with good goals instead of horrifying ones.

And remember that by the time the election itself is at hand, it's too late to make meaningful change in the party platform. The primaries are what actually matter when it comes to changing course. Everything after that, it's just a binary choice between which of the major candidates you actually want in power.

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[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True. The more right the DNC leans, the more extremist right the RNC leans, to differentiates themselves from Democrats.

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[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's why they're fighting him. Money go brr and money is scared.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait why are democrats fighting him?

Because he's advocating policies and reforms that run counter to the financial and social interests of the Democratic Leadership

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[–] cogman@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's actually the exact reason democrats are fighting him.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (7 children)
[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Despite what Fox News may tell you, the Democrats (well, the DNC leadership in particular) aren’t “left.”

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They are when they are being called radical.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And he's probably not even particularly left.

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[–] crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly if you put the DNC in other countries they wouldn't be considered left.

Even the UK who's current "left" PM is actually extremely centre, but compare the DNC to him they would still be more right than him.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

In any other country they'd be the conservative party.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (40 children)

Now do you believe people when they say they have a 2 party system with Republicans vs ~~Democrats~~ other republicans?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mamdani is a Democrat, you're calling Mamdani controlled opposition.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mamdani is a Democrat

Tell that to the DNC

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago

Something something class interests something something

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