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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Do not respond to any of this; just wait around for 2026 and try voting fascism out again.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 14 points 8 hours ago

When they're willing to ignore the family's wishes to pull the plug in life support of a dead woman because the corpse has a fetus growing inside of it, I don't think anyone should be finishing inside of anyone else without multiple forms of birth control.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/06/17/georgia-woman-life-support-abortion-law-baby/84240583007/

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 19 points 12 hours ago

Low birth rates are only problematic to carcinogenic ideologies.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 32 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Just want to drop this here.

Birth control is great.

Some methods of birth control are bad for you specifically. Not all birth control is equal. You are a complex piece of equipment. Birth control alters the way that equipment works. There are side effects, no matter what, and they are listed because the were well documented in clinical trials.

That does not mean you should not use birth control. It means you should work with your doctor to find the one that works best for you.

My wife tried a birth control medication that had an interaction with another medication and made her very drousy. My sister took one that made her feel suicidal. They shopped around and found something that worked.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Yeah. Summarizing this, BC has a lot of side effects, but pregnancy has even more.

Frankly, I'm hoping that RISUG makes it to the US. I would get two reversible injections in the crotch to basically prevent pregnancy with zero side effects.

[–] AngryPancake@sh.itjust.works 12 points 16 hours ago (3 children)
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Or everyone can look at the variety of options and decide what's best for them at any given time.

Condoms are a great option, and they have the added bonuses of also protecting against STIs and being able to work alongside pharmaceutical contraception. That last bit is big because if you're absolutely unwilling to have kids and abortion is illegal or something you're unwilling to do you probably want to be using two methods.

I'm the first to praise condoms especially with people choosing not to vaccinate their children against HPV and with the fact that they're how one can be certain that they don't impregnate anyone else. But they too have downsides including that most people aren't very good at using them.

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 18 points 13 hours ago

BC pills have usages outside of contraception. It can be used to treat various issues related to hormones.

[–] simsalabim@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Condoms are fine if you want to protect from STIs, but they’re less effective than other hormone based contraceptives to prevent conceptions.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

And much, much, much more expensive.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 22 points 21 hours ago

I practice natural family planning

It's called being ugly

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I highly encourage anyone that doesn’t want to ever have kids, to go get tied or snipped so that you won’t ever have to worry about it.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And if you're in a conservative hell state in the United States where doctors refuse to do a tubal ligation unless you have one child, are over 30, or "get your (nonexistent) husband to sign off on it", find a doctor in Washington, California, Massachusetts, or really any non Republican dumpster fire, and they'll likely treat you like an adult. Likely. Not bitter about that at all.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

I've told my partner that if anyone needs my sign-off on any medical decisions, they are to inform the provider that I will be more than happy to do it, but I'm going to punch whomever is requiring it in the face first.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 21 hours ago

One of my best friends had endo. She tried to get it fixed (she is not straight and never wanted kids) and she was told “no, there’s other options, we’re not doing a hysterectomy” multiple times.

I believe it was her third suicide attempt after being admitted multiple other times for self harm that they finally took her shit out.

She’s been fine since then. No suicide-inducing pain, no debilitation, no problem. You’re right—it’s fucking insane that it has to come to that.

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[–] pawnfuture@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago

The states that imposed these Draconian laws have terrible maternal mortality rates now and they're trying to hide the data so they don't have to acknowledge the harm they did. Same way it was during COVID where some state governments like Florida were attacking independent investigators for having accurate numbers when the state changed theirs to try and look better.

[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm gonna get hammered here because this is Lemmy and anything even loosely associated with Natural Family Planning is going to get down voted.

There are very specific and narrow methods that work well (not perfectly, obviously). I won't quote and statistics here.

To start up top, if you want to use any method of birth control, do it. It's up to you entirely, I don't judge anyone at all.

Also, anything related to the calendar method, day counting, or any such nonsense fuckin sucks. Some like to rope that into natural family planning because they are super simple... But super simple doesn't work.

If anyone is interested in learning about one that actually has scientific backing, it would be the Billings Ovulation Method. But it's not day tracking or anything... You need to do some work. You need to learn about it, learn your own body, and be diligent. And most importantly, use alternative methods when you aren't sure.

Again, I'm willing to bring on the downvotes, but I hope people research before assuming it's all bullshit.

And just to be clear: If you want something easy, use birth control.

As an edit: I want to fully acknowledge the gap between typical use and perfect use. My wife and I are certainly in the perfect use category... Her dad is a doctor and we are well aware of all the science behind it. If you aren't going to put in the work, the method is NOT for you. At all.

[–] DonPiano@feddit.org 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I won't quote and statistics here.

Weird. Wonder why

[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I mean I want people to łook them up. A lot of studies have them at 99% effective, but with perfect use, which I noted above. Wikipedia says 0.5%-3%, but it depends on the study.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billings_ovulation_method

Realistically, quoting stats doesn't change anyone's mind. I doubt you'll really believe the above. I'm sure you can find things that list it higher, or that you should use typical use rates, which is a completely fair criticism. As I said, this method is not for everyone.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Why is DONT JIZZ IN VAGINA not the primary method??

Holy SHIT people are irresponsible AF.

I even know a DOCTOR who tried to tell me his ex-gf "tricked him into" having another kid. A doctor who doesnt know how reproduction works??

And then three former acquaintances in NC who all had multiple unplanned kids each and acted surprised every time.

It's NOT THE WOMAN'S RESPONSIBILITY.

Ladies: make him write a treatise explaining how reproduction works and then make him sign a responsibility contract. Men are fucking idiots.

[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Oh 100% on that. Part of that Billings Ovulation Method is that you need open communication and the practice takes both people.

I understand that it's not practical for all couples or situations, but it's an option for some that isn't talked about much.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 69 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Look into open-source apps. You're on freakin' Lemmy.

[–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think we just need to type louder.

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[–] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 day ago

There’s an open source period tracker called drip that doesn’t collect your data. Everything is kept local. My wife used it for a while and learned some things about her cycle. It was also cool being able to know almost exactly when she’d be on her period 2 months ahead of time.

[–] VeryVito@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I knew a woman who stopped taking birth control because of occasional headaches, and she and her husband both ended up with one that didn’t move out until 23 years later.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

This actually happened to me. The doctor said the birth control was raising my blood pressure. I said "I don't think so" but turns out she was right. So I quit them and immediately got pregnant.

But when you say "occasional headaches"? The other thing I found out when I quit them is that they were amplifying my migraines quite a lot. Occasional headaches does not adequately describe that pain, vomiting from the pain.

(ETA - the copper IUD was also a nightmare for me, but eventually landed on the hormonal IUD and that was fantastic, those got me through to menopause - Birth Control doesn't have to be the pills, and not all of the 'hormonal' methods are the same. And an IUD will last longer than the current administration)

[–] rat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I've used hormonal IUDs since I was 16, and they've fantastic. You can just have one inserted and then not have to worry for the next ~6 years. Completely stopped my period too (came back briefly before I got on T, then T stopped it again, and now it's still gone even after being off T for several years). I can not overstate how amazing not having a period has been for my mental health.

When I first tried to get one, my doctor tried to convince me out of it because I was "too young" and hadn't had a child yet. I'm so glad I stayed firm in my decision and got a gyno who would work with me.

[–] architectonas@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

Sure, the general "birth control is bad for you" message is not optimal. But the root of this misinformation are insights about the side effects coming up more or less recently. iirc one third to half of all women on hormonal birth control experience major side effects like headaches, nausea or mood changes. I can see how these significant findings combined with patriarchy awareness and associated anger led to exaggerated messages.

Nonetheless, I think people thinking more critically about birth control is a good thing as one should always consider both benefits and risks.

Edit: Or did I misread this post? If so, I'm very sorry...

[–] Graphy@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Yeah the pill is a great tool but can definitely have its side effects. I know my wife on it had a terribly low libido to the point we joked that’s how it kept you from getting pregnant

[–] presbypenguin@reddthat.com 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Do you know what has all of those adverse effects in much greater frequency while also having a profound effect on your life? Pregnancy

Yes, the medical field has done a fucking terrible job of communicating the adverse effects of anything to do exclusively with AFAB bodies - look up what an IUD insertion is like without anesthesia - but again, if we compare hormonal birth control to pregnancy in terms of adverse physiological and mental effects, it's not even on the same planet.

Yeah, it might not be great for a sizable percentage of folks, and a minute percentage of folks have more immediately dangerous adverse effects that make taking hormonal birth control impossible, but in almost every case pregnancy is worse.

There's an obvious reason to get pregnant, for sure, but it comes with much, much greater risks than preventing it, especially if you don't want the intended outcome of pregnancy.

[–] rat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

look up what an IUD insertion is like without anesthesia

Yep. When I got my first IUD in, that was some of the worst pain I had experienced in my life. Felt like I was getting stabbed in the cervix, and the cramps afterwards were so bad I puked. Totally worth it, but I wish they had prepared me more beforehand (said I would feel a "pinch").

[–] architectonas@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

I feel like the tumblr post is aimed primarily at hormonal birth control and the like. This is what I had in mind writing my comment at least. I am not arguing in support of not using any birth control at all. The simplest and not much less safe method are condoms. Easy to use and basically no side effects.

[–] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago

There are some serious health implications too like reduced bone density, heart issues, and cancer risks. Women should have the choice to take them if they want to obviously, but there can be very real side effects.

[–] huppakee 12 points 1 day ago

I think there is a lot you can about side-effects on anti-conception (from condoms are a hassle to pills mess with hormones), but lately young people are more in favour of 'natural sex' such as you pulling out early when the woman is ovulating which is (obviously) far less effictive. But the thing is,

one should always consider both benefits and risks.

young people aren't good at considering the the results of those results because a) their brain is still developing and b) experience comes from trying. They need to be protected against themselves, just like we do with alcohol, drugs, driving etc.

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Gotta grow new soldiers for the next war

[–] GeekyOnion@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The whole point of everything they're doing is to create an uneducated population of easily manipulated fodder. Of course people are forgetting. This effort has been running for 20-30 years (or longer) at this point, and it's working.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It’s being pushed by the TERF/radfems on tumblr (covert alt right movement) as well. Birth control messes up your goddess energy or something.

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