Civilians end up paying the price for land mines
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The headline of the article is misleading. No one is laying "pre-emptive" minefields at their borders for civilians to waltz in, withdrawal from the Ottawa agreement means that anti-personnel landmines are an option if Russia starts massing troops on their side of the border.
I've trained with landmines during my military service and they are truly horrible things. I hope we never have to use them again.
This is shocking. We are still removing mines left from ages past ...
A nightmare for the grandchildren who will lose limbs and lives over this primitive, abhorrent practice.
presenting EU: the beacon of democracy to the world in the ugly face of US fascism
We can only hope they log a GPS trace for each mine
many of these mines will end up being washed by some flood, unfortunately. and end up where they shouldn't get.
Landmines? Smart, those never hurt anybody accidentally /s
NATO sure like building useless walls eh
Its always projection with these people.
"client state of Belarus" ... In the last 4 yrs, I actually see a bit more of independence of Belarus from Moscow than Germany, Lithuania or Finland does from Washington DC.... Belorussian at least takes weeks or months to comply with Moscow's demands... it is always overnight for Europeans!
Militarily speaking, I don't see this being much of a deterrent either. In such a vast terrain, it would not be hard for Russia to get hold of one and reverse engineer it to disable it (presumably they will be remote controlled and disabled). But even with that, just a large unmanned machine can go in front triggering the mines and breach the line overnight. Again, due to the vast amount of land border and civilian population, it will be a very thin line. Of course, that takes the assumption that Russia had any interest of invading any land beyond Ukraine, that I would rate it as zero (unless invaded first or an total embargo on Kaliningrad!). After NATO's progress fiasco showed in Ukraine, I think from now, the industry and certain politicians just view NATO as a cash cow for the remaining of its existence and less and less expenses share of the pie will be for innovation and readiness.
And Belarus took decades to finally stop sitting on the fence and come for help to Russia in the first place. And this of course happened after months of coup attempts in 2020. Poland and Lithuania still do everything they can to harm Belarus short of military attack.
Finland in 10 years: Let's attack russia. Sieg hBOOM
First as tragedy, then as farce.
When someone shambles to a hospital missing a limb, they can blame it on Russia who laid those landmines, I guess.
Its a boom belt
Even if it was true that Russia was going to invade them, which is not, what are landmines going to do to a modern army lmao.
A pragmatic low cost solution in light of the usa threat of forcing the european members of nato to "pay their fair share". But what prevents russia from detonating them with drones? This isn't ds9. They (presumably) aren't self replicating.