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Image is of the damage caused by an Iranian Kheibar Shekan ballistic missile in Israel, causing dozens of injuries.


Now in our second week of the conflict, we have seen continuing damage to both Israel and Iran, as well as direct US intervention which nonetheless seems to have caused limited damage to Fordow and little damage to Iran's nuclear program. Regime change seems more elusive than ever, as even Iranians previously critical of the government now rally around it as they are attacked by two rabid imperialists at once. And Iran's government is tentatively considering a withdrawal, or at minimum a reconsideration, of their membership to the IAEA and the NPT. And, of course, the Strait of Hormuz is still a tool in their arsenal.

A day or so on from the strike on Fordow, we have so far seen basically no change in strategy from the Iranian military as they continue to strike Israel with small barrages of missiles. Military analysts argue furiously - is this a deliberate strategy of steady attrition on Israel, or indicative of immense material constraints on Iran? Are the hits by Israel on real targets, or are they decoys? Does Iran wish to develop a nuke, or are they still hesitating? Will Iran and Yemen strike at US warships and bases in response to the attack, or will they merely continue striking only Israel?

And perhaps most importantly - will this conflict end diplomatically due to a lack of appetite for an extended war (to wit: not a peace but a 20 year armistice) or with Israel forced into major concessions including an end to their genocide? Or even with a total military/societal collapse of either side?


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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 71 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lol Indian fascist subs are big mad on Zohran's victory.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 55 points 2 days ago

I am getting a kick out of reading the twitter replies to Nick Mullen's endorsement. So many unhinged groyper-adjacent ironylords just absolutely losing it and calling Nick slurs and saying he's fallen off. They really thought he was the clown prince of the alt right and are unraveling at their hero actually just being a lib.

[–] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 79 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

Bad vibes from this billboard allegedly in Tel Aviv

Coincidentally, guess who’s back in the news

https://thecradle.co/articles/israel-confirms-direct-normalization-talks-with-syria

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 56 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Trump front and center really sells the regional wing of the super-empire thing they've got going on.

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[–] Socialism_Is_The_Alternative@hexbear.net 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Interesting, some explosions have gone off in Latakia province (Syria) recently:

"According to informed sources, a series of powerful explosions has struck bases belonging to foreign militant groups affiliated with the terrorist al-Jolani regime.

As reported by Al Mayadeen, the blasts occurred near the village of Qurfays in the countryside of Latakia, targeting facilities linked to the drone unit of the so-called Ministry of Defense of the Jolani terrorist regime."

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/233646/Over-10-powerful-explosions-rock-Syria

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is in the coastal regions where the resistance against Jihadi Jolani is the strongest. Lots of ex-regime folks in the mountains

Yes, it is very good to see the resistance back in action again.

[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 103 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

I thought it was a joke, but the CNBC guys really compared Zohran's win to the Batman movie where Bain makes all the Wall Street guys walk on ice until they fall in.

[edit] https://x.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1937914652450492474

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sir they've already voted for him, you don't need to keep selling him to the voters.

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[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 107 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I still can’t believe we did it and Zohran won. I extra can’t believe we did it by straight up putting regime numbers on the scoreboard last night. We pulled >90% in some places

Now that the height of this campaigning season is over (for the time being), I am taking a (dare I say, well deserved?) break. If there’s enough interest here, I am considering writing a retrospective on the primary campaign from October until today (the day after the primary) sometime soonish. Thanks for all of the support folks

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 64 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Daddy Trump - we have ~~created~~ discovered the intel you wanted!

CNN

CIA obtained "credible evidence" indicating Iran's nuclear program was "severely damaged," director says

CIA Director John Ratcliffe on Wednesday issued a statement saying that the agency had obtained “a body of credible evidence (that) indicates Iran’s Nuclear Program has been severely damaged by the recent, targeted strikes.” “This includes new intelligence from a historically reliable source/method that several key Iranian nuclear facilities were destroyed and would have to be rebuilt over the course of years,” Ratcliffe said.

The statement comes a day after CNN and other outlets reporting a preliminary Defense Intelligence Agency analysis produced roughly 24 hours after the strikes that found that the US bombing likely only set Iran’s ability to produce a nuclear weapon back by a matter of months. The White House has pushed back on that assessment, calling it “wrong.” President Donald Trump has said that the strikes “obliterated” Iran’s ability to produce a weapon.

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard also posted on X on Wednesday that “new intelligence” supported the notion that Iran’s nuclear facilities were “destroyed” in the strikes. “New intelligence confirms what @POTUS has stated numerous times: Iran’s nuclear facilities have been destroyed,” Gabbard posted on X on Wednesday without providing evidence. “If the Iranians chose to rebuild, they would have to rebuild all three facilities (Natanz, Fordow, Esfahan) entirely, which would likely take years to do.”

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 47 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I honestly think it’s a great outcome if the US and Israel convince themselves the nuclear program has been seriously debilitated; it makes getting the nuke that much easier.

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[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 59 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I heard a new claim about Mao today and I have no idea what this person is talking about, but they were saying they didn't like him bc he racialized China. Where does this bogus claim come from.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

White supremacists on youtube (before their USAID funding was cut) would push this idea of China being "Han supremacist" whatever that means, and imply that the Han ethnic group are trying to exterminate all the other ethnic groups. It's probably just that bullshit.

They might also be confused about Chinese history, how other groups in ancient China eventually merged with the Han to become a single ethnicity, and for some reason blame Mao for it. It might sound absurd, but historical illiteracy is mandatory for China haters after all.

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Is he talking about them affirmative action programs? An anecdote was that it was easier for any person from Tibet or Xinjiang region to gain more points in the Gaokao, than any other chap in the Eastern parts of China.

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[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 105 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Zionists are panicking now, because they're now reckoning with the fact that bad faith antisemitism smears no longer work with Mamdani's comfortable victory.

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[–] Tervell@hexbear.net 66 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I drove myself ever so slightly mad calculating some very rough estimates related to the US bombings of Iran, and how they compare to various other US equipment, as part of a broader discussion, but it was buried deep-ish in a thread, so I'm linking it for visibility - https://hexbear.net/comment/6278398 (if this isn't allowed - feel free to delete this comment, or I can just delete it myself)

Will welcome any commentary, I feel like I must have fucked up something with the numbers or my assumptions, even if they are very rough estimates, but I dunno. I could never make it as an accountant, respect the number troops for all they do (well, except for the McKinsey ghouls calculating how many people to fire I guess)

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[–] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

is there any reason to believe that

a) mamdani will actually win in november despite both the DNC and GOP working against him, in addition to Cuomo and Adams running as independents AND

b) if he gets elected in november, the NYPD won't just hold his family hostage and threaten to harass/harm/kill them until he resigns or transmogrifies into a more pliant servant of capital AND

c) he won't shoot himself numerous times in the back of the head?

or am i just being a doomer? it feels impossible to me that the bourgeoisie are just gonna sit by and let this guy do good things in the largest city in the empire

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

mamdani will actually win in november despite both the DNC and GOP working against him, in addition to Cuomo and Adams running as independents AND

Adams and Cuomo have no chance to win the general, winning New York is about name recognition and the dem vote, that's it

The elites will have to pull some truly unprecedented levels of corruption, voter fraud and downright illegal shit to shut Mamdani down, I don't even know what that would look like, it would destroy New York City politics

They're panicking for a reason, Zohran is a lock

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[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 60 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Even if all 3 of those things happen it's still better politically for the american left than him not winning the nomination and just being another 2% candidate

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 50 points 2 days ago

hence the saying "after a victory, tighten your helmet"

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[–] Boise_Idaho@hexbear.net 66 points 2 days ago (4 children)

IOF goon folding like a lawn chair after getting sniped (plus a whole bunch of other footage of them getting owned):
https://xcancel.com/BIG__Brother7/status/1937540186537099555

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[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 70 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Trump really hates dogs

BREAKING: Trump called for CNN to “throw out” Natasha Bertrand “like a dog” and demanded her firing for reporting on intelligence that Iran’s nuclear sites weren’t completely wiped out.

He accused her of pushing “fake news” and trying to damage the reputation of U.S. pilots.

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[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 69 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

They call this "the Hillary"

Chuck Schumer hospitalized for dehydration

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) was hospitalized on Wednesday morning after becoming lightheaded at the gym, a spokesperson told Axios.

He was treated for dehydration and is back at work in the Capitol, the spokesperson said.

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[–] sisatici@hexbear.net 72 points 2 days ago (13 children)

You know what boils my blood, kamala can still show her face and people let her. People started shitting on Hillary as soon as she lost. It makes sense, she is the most responsible for 2016 defeat and she should fuck off. Punch up. But it feels like things have regressed. Kamala got even worse defeat and all the people who should have been sending death threats to her are praising her. People are blaming everyone except those in power. Libs love to cry about democracy and normalcy but this is not normal democracy. This is power worshipping. This is not about her reactionary beliefs. I would be okay if she was hated after losing with real leftist policies too.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 84 points 2 days ago (2 children)

long-corbyn gives a congratulatory endorsement to Zohran

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[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 81 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Yesterday, Palestinian Tribes, Clans, and Families announced their intention to secure aid convoys to ensure their safe delivery to needy families. They warned citizens at gathering at aid points, "death traps," as over 500 martyrs have ascended at these distribution points in recent weeks.

They emphasized that aid would be distributed through official international channels to guarantee fair and dignified access for all, vowing that any attempt to loot the aid would be considered a crime against the Palestinian people.

Today, we confirm that the clans and tribes successfully secured the entry of aid trucks into Gaza City and the northern Strip. Flour, food aid, and medicines were delivered to organizations for distribution.

The High Commission for Clan Affairs considered the actions a historic stance of honor and national responsibility.

Akef al-Masri, of the Clan Affairs Commission stated that this was just the "first step in a series of upcoming steps." He promised the Palestinian people more "surprises in the coming days," asserting that joint national efforts will lead to more aid entering the besieged Strip. He reiterated that the Palestinian clans will continue to work tirelessly to break the siege and secure the needs of the population.

He stressed that the clans "will not stand idly by in the face of our people's suffering, and will continue to work with all their energy to secure people's needs and break the siege imposed on them in every possible way."

The only thing I can say is that these are the most heroic people in the world.

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