I'm at a point where I don't bother with internet arguments especially over one's basic humanity. I just want to beat mfs to an within an inch of their life. You don't see lions argue with their prey so why bother? I'm wasting my time. Dudes arguing points that lead to ethnic cleansing and I'm no gonna be thinking about a witty reddit retort because if this were face to face most people avert their eyes to people like me for a good reason.
Ethnic Minorities and People of Color
Official Title of this Community: Ethnic Minorities and People of Color
Why is the title different?
We like to have fun here.
What is this place? A safe space for underrepresented peoples and peoples of color to talk, chill, and vibe.
What are the basic rules of the community?
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Follow Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines. Non negotiable. This is the bedrock and mods will make decisions with this always in mind.
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This community is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This is a safe space where such people can freely discuss their struggles, insight, and thoughts without fear. If you are not, we respectfully ask you do not post or comment here. A future community will be established to allow for racial discussions with a mixed userbase. However, remember, comments here must still respect Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines.
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Irony Racism is still racism. Racism is bad m'kay? We will treat irony racism and bad faith racist satire as racism. Will wield the ban hammer accordingly.
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No sectarianism: This is an identity channel not a channel for you all to complain about why XYZ isn't the "one true leftism". Take that to another place.
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Stupidpol is not allowed. Stupidpol is class reductionist. We are an identity community. Thinking like stupidpol ignores the struggles of the oppressed, their voices, and their need for unique support. Nothing says oppression more than someone saying that the identity you have is "not real" and that if you only thought like them you'd see what your "real" identity is. Mods reserve the right to ban users and content who promote stupidpol, stupidpol memes, and other class reductionist thinking.
FAQ
I don't look XYZ and/or sometimes I can pass as white so I don't know if I can post here. Can I?
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This place is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This includes those of mixed heritage and those who may be "white" but are of an ethnicity that is a minority in their area (i.e. Kurds, etc) If you've experienced oppression due to your identity that is not based on sexual / gender identification, you are welcome here.
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Moreover, for our American audience, we have people from around the world who are "white" but are oppressed due to being a minority in their country. They are and should be welcomed here.
What can I post?
- Anything you think is relevant to the mission of this community. Things will evolve over time.
- Topics and things relevant to EM and POC.
Suggested Posts
- [People of Spice]: Food recipes so others can taste your culture
- [Theory]: Vid/podcasts/websites discussing issues relevant to identity, anti-imperialism, etc
- [News]: Vids/podcasts/websites that talk about current events relevant to EM and POC
A friend of a friend who is a "pillar of the local queer community" calling me a dangerous Tankie that people shouldn't associate with. lol 😂
Finished writing the song... gonna mix it and share it later today. It only took me about 6 days to finish this shit—for real!
It feels really concerning that there are cases where I'd feel infinitely more respected by a Black conservative than I would a white leftist (even though, obviously, neither of them would be truly respectful).
"Hey this term has racist origins, despite it being an acceptable term within the white power structure. Maybe as leftists, we shouldn't use it and instead take the time to write out or say the definition without using the term itself?"
"Yeah but it's the accepted term and it means the same as the definition."
"But the term itself is harmful and othering. Here's a list of reasons why, along with examples of similar terms that used to be acceptable: "
"I don't see the point."
What the fuck is it with white 'leftists' not wanting to learn things or change their views based on material consequences?
I think its because some see themselfs as the one true leftists so they think by not changing their views they are the real deal, its narcissism really
White leftists also love to erase racial matters from any conversation because their mentality is, "I can't be held accountable for something if I just act like it doesn't exist!"
It's the same as the "I don't see color!" libs.
Anyone ever have white women saying that they struggle more than male poc’s? I’ve been hearing this more from white Guatemalans. They claim that they face more racism for having blonde hair and blue eyes. That nonwhite men have an advantage over them because we don’t face sexism like they do.
Guatemala does have a pretty bad sexism issue but white Guatemalans pretty much own the finance industry in Guatemala and you’ll find the whitest men and women at the executive levels while brown people are hired cleaners.
White women having this energy of not actually opposing oppression but rather opposing being a victim of oppression happens to be one of the most common criticisms they get from POC, and that includes WOC. This is most white women I've interacted with, and that includes the ones I've dated.
White women tend to prefer having both white supremacy and patriarchy in place rather than having neither. They'd rather face oppression under white men, just so that they can oppress POC, than be free with WOC.
In fact, I find that, in general, white people who have some sort of marginalized identity (white women, yes, but also white queers and even white ND people) love to exploit the shit out of that marginalized identity to avoid accountability. The number of times I've seen white women have a #notallwhitewomen moment just because a Black woman demands basic respect from them + the number of times I've seen a white queer unabashedly pinkwashing racism is far too much.
Intersectionality in the minds of these people is the exception, not the rule.
Completely agree, almost always the case. I refuse to even date White women at this point, much less have a long-term relationship.
I just got in an argument with my mom today (she's white, I'm mixed-race Filipino + white) over the Supreme Court case. She doesn't think I'm at risk of deportation. Flips will eventually be on the chopping block as Whitey moves down the list of minorities since deportations won't actually solve any problems (often making them worse, in fact). I tried explaining to her people with birthright citizenship have already been deported. Laws and rules don't matter because if they did, every white person would be deported back to Europe. We all know that's never going to happen.
The topic of my dad's side of the family living in the US came up. His first ex-wife is here, along with a few of my oldest siblings. I pointed out they're all at a serious risk of deportation, which means I'll be responsible for my niece and nephew. Again, more denial and deflection. Then the mask slipped.
"[Your dad's ex-wife] may be a necessary sacrifice and it makes sense."
I managed to not throw my dinner plate at her face and stayed calm with "There shouldn't be any 'sacrifices' at all." She then got real quiet and is now throwing a temper tantrum because she showed her whole ass, knows she got caught, and wishes I'd be a good little removed who agrees with her it's not our problem.
I am so fucking ready to be done with this side of my family. If I wasn't disabled and reliant on them for help, I would have fucked off by now. It's really shitty to say, but I can't wait until she finally fucking croaks, I get an inheritance, sell the house, and leave. She should fucking know better, being a woman who had to deal with sexual harassment and not being allowed to have her own bank account for the first twenty-something years of her life. But no. Fuck everyone else, she just wants to have what's hers while reactionaries go to town on the rest of us. She thinks white privilege applies to me and that I should take advantage of it.
These last few years have made me rethink everything I thought I knew about my family's history. My mom's mom was genuinely one of the worst people I've ever met, another white woman born into a world where she couldn't even vote, yet was horrifically racist, misogynistic, and antisemitic. I thought for most of my life, my mom had managed to lose these beliefs inflicted on her by her mother. Nope! It's all crackkkers all the way down.
Sorry for ranting. It's just so incredibly frustrating hearing people from other marginalized groups reinforce and simultaneously downplay white supremacy.
"[Your dad's ex-wife] may be a necessary sacrifice and it makes sense."
I managed to not throw my dinner plate at her face and stayed calm with "There shouldn't be any 'sacrifices' at all." She then got real quiet and is now throwing a temper tantrum because she showed her whole ass, knows she got caught, and wishes I'd be a good little removed who agrees with her it's not our problem.
To the tune of London Bridge is falling down - 'Scratch a liberal a fascist bleeds'
Not even scratched, but the fear of being scratched in this case lmao
Damn, sorry you have to deal with that shit from your own mom.
I don't get it though, why does she think the ex is a necessary sacrifice? Because she's supporting Trump deportations and is okay with some innocents getting caught up if they get the criminals, because she's just racist, or because she harbors some animosity towards the ”ex"? Not excusable either way, obviously, but just curious.
Because she's a snitch and a scab who thinks we can serve other people up if ICE comes. Since my dad's ex doesn't have kids born on US soil and immigrated herself, she's the most at risk for deportation with what's going on. What would actually happen is the ex would get deported, then ICE would deport the rest of us anyway.
No, the ranting is extremely appreciated.
Shit like this needs to be said.
Radio DJ on a latino station straight up spreading anti-immigrant propaganda and then supposedly he opens up the phone line and he says "oh this isn't a debate, I just want to hear opinions" and then all the callers are just agreeing with him anyway. Fucking hate gusanos.
It seems like some form of networking might be my path out of this unemployment hole, then... but it's upsetting that I still wouldn't be terribly shocked if nothing comes from this. It's baffling how finding something as necessary for literal fucking survival as a job feels like hunting for a hidden treasure.
I'll do a brief drum solo after that (to revisit the theme of the intro), and then one more verse, pre-chorus, and chorus sequence, and then some outro of some sort.
Finally got to a point where I was able to sing through a whole song using unclean vocals and didn't need to take a break.
Unfortunately, I didn't record it yet, but this is a huge accomplishment because I used to feel weak as shit doing this even after just a single verse. This time, it felt incredibly easy, relaxed, and natural yet the growls still sounded fierce as fuck.
I did this so casually. I was just doing some dishes, and then I just randomly started singing the lyrics to "Pull the Plug" by Death. I sang the whole way through with my unclean technique.
I've been trying to practice my uncleans a lot more often because I felt like I was giving the cleans more love as of late, but I'm gonna practice both whenever I can!
The thing about U.S. media dominance is that you can't escape its ideas even in places you consider to be apolitical or safe, I just saw a kitty page that I follow make a joke about the U.S. bombing Iran.
Its disturbing how gleefully sadistic they get too. You don't go to far before you get people saying nuke a country
Absurd question but I just realized I have no idea how do I make other bipoc friends? Because almost all my friends are white and there's things they don't get. I live in a very white place but it's a city and there's tons of normal (non-cracker) people around, but a lot of them seem siloed in their own communities. I've never felt like I could go to cultural events for my ethnic group and don't even know if there are any here because my parents are pretty assimilationist, I don't speak the language, I don't have a shared cultural background because I was raised very American.
@vegeta1@hexbear.net I remember one time as a small kid that I had a tantrum in a souk because my parents didn't want me to get a blanket of Vegeta screaming and instead bought me a blanket with rabbits on it.
They may have thought rabbits were safe but they aren't. I watched watership down and thats far more gully than anything I've ever done
there are members of a DSA caucus that are legitimately mad at and talking about filing a grievance against another DSA member for calling them crackers on twitter. there's no joke I could make that's funnier then the situation itself
Nerds we are gonna get cancelled for saying the c-word
Don't worry! If "cracker" isn't your pick, I got more for you to select from! Are you down with "honky"? What about "bleach demon"? Does "no-purpose flour" fit your vibe?
why not cumskin?
Should double-down with "Okay, cracker."
"Peace in the middle east" you say before I grab your ankle and twist behind your shoulder
I can't get over that someone joked that I'm "Angel" when I sing my clean vocals but an alter-ego of mine named "Demon" comes out when I sing my unclean vocals.
Goofy!
That's very sweet!
So you're a tekken character
First.
I'm thinking to write a bridge that leads into a guitar solo and then go from there with one more verse/pre-chorus/chorus section. After that, some sort of outro will close out the song, and that will conclude track 8 out of 9!
conclude track 8 out of 9!
Damn you're close to a full album. Gonna try to get a label to publish or just distribute for fun?
I actually intend to see if I can get a full band going at some point and publish this for real.
My main issue right now is that I need some more musical equipment but won't have the funds to get it until I get out of this unemployment shit. That's what I'm looking forward to the most.
Since I'm clearly quite a prolific writer, I'd love to get music out at a King Gizzard rate, really.
I have a 4-string bass and have been practicing on that for now, but the songs I write are for when I get a 7-string bass. I intend to get a used one to keep it fairly cheap, especially since most companies are not regularly producing such a niche kind of instrument. Thankfully, my bass playing and vocals are improving a lot, and I'm starting to get the hang of singing and playing simultaneously!
I decided to make the bridge a polyrhythmic breakdown kind of section.
The ambient guitar track in the background has a far more coherent rhythm, but the chugs on top are just... a bit all over the place, but it's in a way that works.
I'm in love with this. I think I did a good job. I could imagine it going well with some melodic, non-word vocals that harmonize well with the ambience (things like humming and whatnot).
Guitar solo is next!
The ambient guitar:
The distorted guitar: