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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago

When I was in school they had Apple II's and pretended using LOGO was learning how to use a computer. Chromebooks are closer to real world computer usage than we've typically had, barring whatever ten-to-fifteen year period where school computers were Windows PCs, which may or may not have happened at all depending on where you live.

The loss of literacy has way more to do with moving from old CLI-based OSs and to GUI OSs and eventually phone and tablet OSs. Not that I'd want to go back to MS-DOS, but the only reason anybody had any understanding of where every part of the OS went and what it did is having to navigate it from memory and it being built from two sticks and three rocks.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's tough. No one is supplying hardware below cost and losing money. They're cheap because by offering only a chrome browser, you don't need much hardware. Most everything was headed online anyway because with the advent of Mac popularity, no one wanted to put out little pieces of software for both Windows and Mac.

Chromebooks weren't unpopular at the start just because, they kicked around until the market shifted enough to everything being online and until schoolboards adopted the "laptop for everyone" mentality. Then schoolboards adopted them because they were cheap cheap cheap. I recall a teacher saying they were also good because it meant everyone was on the exact same office suite (google docs). No different versions where the buttons were in different places, no 2010 version, 365 version, whatever. Everyone had the exact same version. Something broken? Factory reset was dead easy. No techs needed.

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[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Monied interests have been destroying education for 4 decades. Google joined the party late, but they’ve certainly done their damage.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Every corporation have a student program. Universities promote corporate products because teachers get money from corporations. But no, blame Google, because they're responsible, it's like saying that IBM was responsible for Hitler. Evil corporations did nothing wrong because evil cannot be changed to good. That's just people who make decisions to put the money on top of morality.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

google practically kinda gave up on improving thier pixel, its just a over-glorified AI phone, which they are obsessed, they dont even compete with the other flagship phones anymore. now alot of tech companies are moving towards Datamining/AI instead of developing.

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

They did. They also basically came in around the early 90's in San Francisco and all the tech hippies were like, "Yeah, we're gonna give people all these wonderful tools to create new realities and it's gonna be like a Star Trek utopia!" Then the VC investors and money men showed up and said "No, we're gonna use these tools on people to make them more predictable." So now instead of giving people tools, tech uses tools on people.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Man I really need to get the desk for my kid’s PC set up. The machine is already there and got switched to Linux back during the winter.

He will have long creative hyper-focused minecraft build sessions on console, so I bet he’d be pumped to find out he could use the CLI with a keyboard. Or as he calls it, “the commands.”

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[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Seeing kids nowadays fail at basic computer stuff is so disheartening.

[–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Most people suck with computers, no matter their age. There may or may not have been a time frame which resulted in a higher percentage of people knowing more basic computer stuff. Kids on computers tended to pick up more basic computer knowledge than kids only interacting with gaming consoles for the past 40 years. If you want to blame one thing for decreasing basic computer knowledge, kids being glued to their smartphones and not touching computers (laptops/towers) at all is the much more obvious candidate. Like kids playing on their N64 (insert arbitrary gaming console here) and not touching computers before. I think, OP, you're falling into a trap of over-projection, where you project yourself and your peers as a standard onto a generation/age-group, when most of us here on lemmy have always been the outliers. People are not "tech savvy"; never have been. Trying to put the blame on one company and product (no matter how evil and bad both are) for select age groups is ridiculous.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

This goes from all directions. Even with Windows now Windows 11 comes with DRM.

[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My son currently has a Chromebook with Linux, wine, steam. Not sure if your argument checks out.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A school laptop with all that?

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[–] Drdoom2027@kbin.earth 3 points 1 week ago

The laptops in 2026 will all have AI integrated into the hardware. It will be dependent on the AI in the cloud servers.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

At the school I was at, it wasn't just that it's a Chromebook, but they also lock the Chromebooks down. You can't use the Linux sandbox feature or the android features, and a proxy is enforced preventing you from going to any websites they deem distracting.

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