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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Ah yes, a vast increase in the accessibility of computers actually made people less tech literate. This whole "gen-z can't computer like me" crap is just millennials entering into their juvenoia phase. I guess we're all just damned to become boomers, old and scared.

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[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Thankfully, My third world country was too poor to afford Chromebooks, so we had to rely on regular PCs

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

This is LITERALLY the most regarded take one could have about Chromebooks

What's next, you want to gatekeep education as well?

Voting?

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

At the school I was at, it wasn't just that it's a Chromebook, but they also lock the Chromebooks down. You can't use the Linux sandbox feature or the android features, and a proxy is enforced preventing you from going to any websites they deem distracting.

[–] Tiger_Man_@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 6 days ago

Not with chrimebooks, with android

[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 197 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I think it's a bit harsh to lay all the blame on google, considering the iPad exists.

Same shit different bucket.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 110 points 1 week ago (25 children)

I'd argue the iPad is the bigger offender personally. They're blaming Chromebooks because that's often what schools provided, but the same exact timing existed before with iMacs in classrooms all through the 90s and early 00s for millennials despite Windows being by far the more common real world OS they would need to know in the workplace.

But when it comes to portable devices the iPhone and iPad are king, that's what young people want and often what they're given. And those operate nearly exactly the same as a Chromebook. Toss everything into a cloud bucket, no user-facing folder structures to learn, everything locked down with limited access and customization. A take it or leave it approach to user interaction.

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 week ago (9 children)

It is more basic than that:

"It just works" is terrible for developing computer skills.

It is damned convenient for the most part, but it removes the opportunity to have an issue and solve it, developing your troubleshooting skills.

Then we come to the lack of verbosity of modern operating systems and programs.

"Oops, there is an issue, please wait while we solve it..." is an absolutely terrible error message.

"Error 0x001147283b - Fatal error" is a far better error message.

[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Until you search that error code and it doesn't tell you anything useful.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

Then you ask on a forum and others can help you easier

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[–] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 77 points 1 week ago (16 children)

This is kinda a bad take imo. I don’t think it’s chrome books that has ruined tech literacy. Maybe it’s younger exposure to even more addictive social media than previous generations?

I’m pretty young. My first mobile device was an iPod touch 4th gen. I figured out how to jailbreak it and I was like 12 at the time. If I ever felt one of these walled garden devices was holding me back, I enjoyed finding a creative solution around that. Since that iPod touch, I jailbroke my Wii and recently a kindle. I also modded a gameboy, but that was different than jailbreaking.

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What are the advantages of a jailbroken kindle? I’ve thought about it but there isn’t really anything I lack on mine.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

My motivation was mostly to ditch Amazon, but in the process I discovered ko reader is both better than Amazon’s reader and does a really good job turning PDFs into readable books.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah it's a fucking abysmal take. More kids had access to the internet and computers because of Chromebooks, without them they'd have had nothing - maybe once an hour in the computer lab each week, assuming they even had one.

Prior to Chromebooks, the most a school could do was "a computer in every classroom". That was it, that was the ambition in the early 2000's and even then most schools failed.

What happened was tech companies made computers easier to use by hiding a lot of that complexity. And average humans were fine with that because shit should just work.

The arguments being raised here about a loss of skills are the same arguments boomers used against millennials because they didn't know how to do DIY and shit like that.

The blame is always squarely on the education system. That system is supposed to set kids up with the skills they need to make it in the wold and tech literacy is one of many, many areas that is hugely underserved.

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is an incredibly dumb take. Tech isn't one dimensional and there isn't a "right" path to tech literacy. I grew up on Windows and I learned a lot of what I know by exploring my laptops and learning new things out of necessity. I ended majoring in CS in working in tech. My sister, who's 5 years younger than me, had Chromebooks growing up both at home and at school, yet she's also a very proficient CS major. Using Chromebooks doesn't show that someone is bad at tech, that's just a baseless assumption.

Chromebooks are just another branch of tech, and there's really nothing wrong with them. They're basically Android tablets in laptop form. Google giving them to schools at a deeply discounted price is not a bad thing. Without them, many schools wouldn't have any sort of tech for their kids to work with. Chromebooks are incredibly useful tools that can enable teachers to incorporate material from the internet into their lessons and help streamline their work.

Hating on things for the sake of hating on them is just lazy and counterproductive. There's a lot to criticize Google for, Chromebooks are not one of them.

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[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

First of all, this isn't enshitification as defined by Corey Doctorow. This has nothing to do with an internet platform getting worse because the priorities of the proprietors changed.

I don't think it's entirely fair to blame Google for this. None of these companies do this for entirely altruistic reasons. At the core of the problem is funding in education. Google saw an opportunity and jumped on it. When given a choice that kids get no computer hardware vs. dumping price Chromebooks I would still vote Chromebook. Get your politicians to set aside less money for tanks and more money for education.

Besides, no one is stopping kids from exploring other platforms. Google is looking for an infrastructure lock-in, get them locked in while they are young, but you can go do other stuff. It's also a question of financial means and interests. And they don't need to do LAN parties because they already have Fortnite and stuff. Life moves on. Your childhood was also markedly different from your parents'.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 48 points 1 week ago

Chromebooks didn't do shit.

It was tablets and phones replacing the home computer. Apple are equally complicit in this.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This is kind of like blaming car manufacturers for people not knowing how to drive manual and how cars work under the hood, because they made cars reliable and simple to use.

There's always an incentive to make things more accessible. Skills always become outdated because of that. How many of us know how to skin game and cook it on naked fire? Not many, I presume.

Chromebook for all its flaws and limitations still let children, who would not have otherwise used any computing device, at least use one.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 2 points 6 days ago

Wanted to say the same thing you said, but with actual literacy. Books exist, but the desire to be literate is not there.

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