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The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

 A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

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[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 220 points 1 week ago (27 children)

How is this all normal and ok?

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 130 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

It's not normal. It's ok until the majority of America accepts what can really be done with that database Trump is having Palantir build.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can someone try blowing up their servers? That'd be nice.

[–] msage@programming.dev 19 points 1 week ago

The wrong Amazon is burning

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[–] lnxtx 39 points 1 week ago

The rogue state of Israel has immunity from the US and its satellites.

[–] doctortofu@piefed.social 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's absolutely not okay, but since there will be no negative consequences for it whatsoever, it's the new normal. This is sadly what happens when laws are not enforced, and I'm not sure if anything even can be done anymore...

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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 190 points 1 week ago (24 children)

Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

This bit stood out to me. Israel has been planning this war since at least November of last year. Israel's current actions say this wasn't a simple "what if..." contingency plan that a government comes up with. This was a plan they were going to put into action soon. Makes it even more disgusting to me.

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 103 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

This was clear since such a big and supposedly effective intelligence apparatus failed to stop or warn about the Hamas attack that gave Israel pretext to go full ethnic cleaning and warmongering.

They knew, they allowed it, and paid a modest price in Israeli casualties to kickstart their plan. Also, Ukraine was attracting all the war funding, they couldn’t risk USA reducing their military allowance.

I hate that USA is enabling them, and at the same time being hipocritical about wanting a peaceful solution. Cut their funding if you want to stop them. Freeze their assets like NATO did with Russia. Act, don’t talk.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 week ago (7 children)

It would take one phone call from the President, and the genocide would stop. Biden could have done it, and Trump still can. I don’t see the US governments unwavering support of Israel ever ending.

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[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fuck, also explains why Netenyahu jumped at the opportunity as soon as he avoided having his government dissolved by vote. Fuuuuck this is so much evil bullshit.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I mean, that's not really surprising. Every military makes plans for any contingency, and Israel especially has always been paranoid about Iran's nuclear programme, so of course they would make sure they're tracking the scientists in case they needed to make a move.

The disgusting part is them just pulling the trigger for political reasons instead of actual intelligence that indicates a breakout. And obviously killing civilians, which the scientists and their families are, but obviously Israel has shown in the past they don't care about that.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Every military makes plans for any contingency,

In defense, to respond to an attack. The word contingency is important.

If the military is planning acts of aggression then that is called preparing for war.

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 92 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Think about this when you see politicians trying to pass absurd laws like banning all regulation of AI. AI is a cover to remove any last semblance of accountability for atrocious and illegal activities

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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 84 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Anyone who gets uncomfortable with government surveillance because it could be used to target certain demographics of people needs to look no further than what Israel has done to prove their point.

The only thing stopping the world from autonomously targeting people by online demographic is common human decency, and humanity is running on very short supply of that these days.

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[–] Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 81 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yet they didn’t know about preparation for the October 7th attack?

Tinfoil hat mode: they let it happen to have a reason to raze Gaza to the ground.

(Sorry, that’s my "Bush did 9/11" moment)

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 week ago (11 children)

No tinfoil needed, has it not been confirmed that Netanyahu was aware of the attacks and let them happen?

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[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago (12 children)

This is state sanctioned mass murder. This is state terror attacks across a national border. This is so unethical and obviously illegal, I don't know what else to say about it.

We need to distance ourselves from Israel. We need to stop giving them weapons. Right now, the taxes I pay go partially to arming them, I am partially responsible, and this is not "ok". I do not want to be doing this, I never wanted this...

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago

Right now, the taxes I pay go partially to arming them,

And we are giving millions in contracts to Palantir to help them create these nightmare AI projects with zero oversight.

Alex Karp's biography makes it pretty clear he's trying to spin this shit as every American's patriotic duty to support, and no different than the Manhattan project (as if that's something great to aspire to in the first fucking place) during WWII.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (4 children)
  1. what a stupid fucking name
  2. why does Israel get to have nuclear weapons
  3. why does no one ask question 2
[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (5 children)
  1. Why is it ok for them to assassinate civilians?
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[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Why does anyone get to have nuclear weapons?

Because once you have them, who's going to try to take them away?

[–] pineapplepizza@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago (8 children)

In 1994, Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurances from the United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A huge mistake, apparently

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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are flying jets, using drones, and even small explosives. The homes of these scientists were severely damaged. The richest countries of the world are backing Israel.

Is this just Israel putting out propaganda? These scientists thought they were safe at home. Sinister! Super secret weapon that blows up apartment buildings. Sounds revolutionary!

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[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Few things say "you need a nuke, you need it right now" like foreign states killing your scientists, in their beds in the dead of night

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago (20 children)

One of those things is a genocidal theocratic ethnostate killing your military leaders.

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[–] anas@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Funny how precise they can be when they want to be.

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's guaranteed the number of bystanders that were killed while they killed these "targets" is not zero.

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[–] MantisToboggon@lazysoci.al 53 points 1 week ago (7 children)

ok if there are actual Jewish space lasers I'm fucking done with this reality.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 53 points 1 week ago (24 children)

israel and the us all deserve the nuremberg treatment for their crimes

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[–] ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Since when is it legal to kill civilian scientists in another country?

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

It got more legal a few years ago, I think. Not explicitly "made legal", but the legal foundations have been eroded. I.e. if you can expect to get away with something it is legal in a very real sense.

It's always been practically legal for empires like the US, Russia, China to commit any atrocities in weak countries, More and more countries are seeing how much they can get away with.

Netanyahu tested the limits over and over and saw there were really quite few legal limits. With Gaza, he saw the limits didn't actually exist at all.

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[–] martin4598@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Marking people for assassination looks normal to the times of Israel. Nice people.

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[–] kcweller 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's time to stop believing the lies of Israel's might.

They assassinated people in Tehran, they don't have a special weapon that killed all of them simultaneously. The same lies about "special systems" like the iron dome being impenetrable has been their tactic to ensure pressure on their states.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 17 points 1 week ago

Special systems = indiscriminate bombing of residential building at night to maximize civilians murdered

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago

Times of Israel

Should be called Crimes of Israel

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 23 points 1 week ago (26 children)

What is to stop the ultra wealthy from simply each making a million of these AI commanded drones, and just...killing all the poor? ALL of them? ALL OF US?!

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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Vibe warfare sounds like a terrible idea

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