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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 10 hours ago

I feel like this one has shitty gamergate undertones.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 14 points 1 day ago

Rowling had no problem writing about harry entering a woman's bathroom 🤔

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Imagine reading Harry Potter today, now knowing how openly and blatantly transphobic and hateful the writer is...

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As long as it's pirated and they don't give any money to the bigot I'm ok with that.

Same as I'm ok reading Lovecraft. The dude is dead and reading his work is not going to make anyone racist, so why not enjoy it?

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

It's pretty easy to find it used or borrow it from a library but yeah dont give the hateful woman any money

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lots of people still read and many don't know or don't care about the author

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To each their own, I'm not here to judge anyone, especially over things they simply just don't know or might just not care about.

I never was a fan of Harry Potter in the first place, even before the author started showing her true colors. I was always more of a Lord Of The Rings fan.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh man L. Ron Hubbard is as problematic as J. K. Rowling.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

L. Ron Hubbard

How do you know the perfect thing to say every time? Just …how?

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Similarly, I was never much into it. I read the first four books because my best friend back then was really, really, really raving about it. This is about the time the books were first released. I found the first three books okay, the fourth an absolute piece of boring slop, and lost interest after that one.

[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Classic question if you can seperate the art and the artist. Rowling, MJ, Lovecraft (even if you will be hard pressed to find any old artist that wasnt misogynistic, racist, homophobic and all other narrow minded ideas under the sun)

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago

Buy second hand book. Then artist gets nothing. Any penny she gets seems to go to attacking trans rights. Do you really want to be complicit in that? It's not like the art is even that good or relevent now.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You can't separate the art and the artist while the artist is still alive and causing harm.

You can ask this question again when she kicks it.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee -3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

actually you can and its quite easy to do for 99% of artists

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

YOU can. I have moral qualms handing a dollar to someone if I know they're going to use part of that dollar to convince trans kids to kill themselves.

Especially for something with simple alternatives like entertainment.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Lovecraft is long past dead, nothing comes from buying his books. Rowling is alive and using her clout to actively remove resources from a minority community while using and encouraging hate speech.

You can't separate the artist from their art when you are promoting or paying them. That's just turning a blind eye.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What parts of Harry Potter is hateful? Its a genuine question since I havent read it.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For one, the goblins who run the bank are directly modelled off of antisemitic stereotypes, even down to copying antisemitic fascist caricatures for their models in the movies.

In the book goblins are "A short and stocky humanoid with black eyes, a domed head and long fingers." but the movies add hooked noses and a Star of David mosaic on the bank floor.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not Harry Potter, it's the writer J. K. Rowling that is hateful.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah that makes more sense. I realized when reading the comment again that I misunderstood what was said.

[–] lemming@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is it wrong to enjoy art made by bad people? I think it's a very complicated question and the answers will definitely have a lot of variation between people. What if it really is a good art? Or just enjoyable? Should everyone avoid it? People still listen music by Michael Jackson, for example, are they bad because of it?

My own approach is that qualities of what someone creates don't need to be inseparably tied to the personality or views of the author. Everyone can enjoy what they like without the obligation to find out details of the author and adjust their preference based on that. It's fine to make them aware of the problems, it's not fine to make them feel bad because they like something that is not wrong on its own. If you dislike the author enough for it to spoil their works for you, good for you. I also feel this way about some authors. But don't require it from other people.

That's my take. I'm curious, what's yours?

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

She's using the money to attack trans rights. Buy second hand or sail the seven seas so she gets nothing. If you fund it, you're complicit in it whether you rationalise and compartmentalize or not.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Just like you likely support child labor because of your sneakers. Can't exist without stepping on some cause.

[–] lemming@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

Yes, but I didn't write anything about buying. The comment I replied to was only about reading, which I thought may be excessive.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From my understanding, Mozart had some sort of shit fetish. Do I listen to his music often? No, but I have heard his works before and totally respect his compositions.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

It turns out having a shit fetish doesn't actually make you a bad person

[–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah potterheads are total fuckin dweebs unworthy of respect tbh

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds like a muggle to me

[–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds like someone who would benefit from reading another book to me.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

YEAH LET'S BURN ALL THE BOOKS!

What, are you quoting Joanne's response to photos of the nazis burning the Institut für Sexuellwissenschaften's research or something?

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 2 points 1 day ago

@TehBamski I've read it to, it was entertaining.