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[–] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

As long as they dont shove it down our throats, and then expand and expand and expand the features that are in their paid tier, and make you feel lesser for choosing their local only unpaid mode, and dont make the unpaid mode inconvenient with dark patterns.

Its happened too much, I've asked my friends to hop through so many different platforms over the years and decades

It always starts with something thats reasonable, and every time thus far, it expands into something I hate.

[–] Stomata@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If this feature rolls out but you can't pay for it. You can always use Molly (fork of signal). If you can support the project than do it. But if you can't than don't force your self

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[–] qweertz@programming.dev 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Glad to see they are establishing useful streams of revenue

I, however, will continue using Molly in combination with Syncthing

[–] goldenquetzal@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Interesting, how do you use syncthing with molly?

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like cloud backup on their server or a subscription just to export the files to store offline?

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I have no issue with this, I personally wouldn't use it but I get that they need to make money (which is why i have a recurrent donation every month).

If this helps them to do that, then so be it

[–] pemptago@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Signal backups are an issue. They keep growing. I need to look into a solution sooner or later that isn't just buying a phone with more space. I'd like to find ways to reduce the size and keep managing the backups myself, but that's gonna take time. If they offer a secure, private, and affordable service, I'd prolly just redirect my donations to that.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

honestly thats why I don't like signal and simplex for people who send lots of images. something server-based is much more suitable for them, like Matrix. that is, if their apps were more stable. there's also the security about metadata, but for most people that's probably not a huge concern

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[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago

Excellent news honestly. Trying to get people to switch to something encrypted and the one thing I've thought of is that I want to know it can continue indefinitely. Everything else in life costs money- we just never think of it computer wise because we pay with our data and privacy.

This can join threema with a solid revenue stream. I back mine up locally but would pay for this anyhow.

[–] witty_username 12 points 2 days ago

Would pay for

[–] rozlav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Anyone knows about creating easily a signal account without smartphone ? Telegram does that and I have tremondous people that would use that instead of whatsapp/telegram and that don't understand matrix or even Mattermost 😭

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Telegram does that? how? you need a phone number, so essentially a smartphone too. or is it common in your community to use feature phones, so that the problem is no registration on PC?

[–] rozlav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

No Telegram can do registration with just a simple text message + pc, no need of smartphones just simple dumb phone

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Assuming you have a computer to get on here, you could use an Android emulator like BlueStacks.

[–] rozlav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (4 children)

But you need a simcard with this emulator to connect to signal, here I'm talking about getting a text message and then still have a signal account, or even better : only having an account but wirh email or norhing. I think it's not possible to have signal work the way you describe.

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Telegram too requires that you verify your phone number, right? So I took that as a given.

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@rozlav don’t need a smartphone, but do need access to a telephone number. it’s an important anti spam measure. you never have to use or display it: can operate entirely with signal usernames instead

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

I commented this in the other thread, sharing it here as well

I’ve been waiting for this feature for a while actually 😅

When I last saw people talking about it, there were rumors that there would be a reasonable free backup (ex. up to 1 Gb) with relatively cheap paid options above that. I scrolled through the GitHub link and couldn’t confirm or deny if this is still/actually the case.

Backups are the #1 pain point for friends that tried to switch to Signal, especially for those on iOS. I have a local backup + sync setup for my own phone, but it’s a lot to expect for the average casual user to set up.

Whatsapp has backups to Google Drive, which is better than nothing but not ideal. It’s time Signal had a reliable backup method for casual users

[–] Outwit1294@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago

Good initiative. They need money to work

[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Imagine having to pay with it with MobileCoin's shitcoin ^^

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

If it's 1 euro a month, I'll do it

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