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Kevin Smith says he’s cracked the story for the Dogma sequel by Kevin Fraser

JoBlo / 2025-06-05 00:55

Shortly after regaining control of Dogma from the Weinsteins last year, Kevin Smith quickly announced that he was working on a sequel. Since then, Smith has taken the original film on tour, including a screening at the 78th Cannes Film Festival, which prompted him to get bitten by the festival bug again. He told Deadline that he wants to return to the festival with a sequel to Dogma by 2028.

“What I didn’t realize is, I would get there and I’d get bit by the bug again, and I’d be seeing all these places, these haunts from my childhood, from my 20s, so to speak, from the three times I was there when I was a kid, once in ’94 with Clerks, once in ’99 with Dogma, and then again in 2006 with Clerks 2,” Smith said. “And suddenly, I was like, ‘Why is it that you assume that the Cannes-worthy portion of your life is over? You never even expected it to begin in the first place. It was never part of the aim. It just came along with the journey. Maybe if you really try, you could.’ So, it was the 78th edition this year and so I was like, ‘You know what? I wanna come back on the 80th, or the 81st at the latest with the Dogma sequel, like that’s a Cannes-worthy movie.’ And so, I said that on stage when I was intro-ing and everybody applauded, and [festival director] Thierry Frémaux was on stage with me, and he adds, ‘if it is good,’ and I was like, ‘fair enough, if it’s good, yes.’“

As for the Dogma sequel, Smith says he’s been “whimsying about it for the last six months” and has finally cracked the story.

“I absolutely love it. I feel like when people see it, they’ll be like, ‘Oh, I get it,’ like ‘that makes sense’ kind of thing. Hopefully they’ll be like, ‘that’s clever’ and not be like, ‘well shit, I would have done that,’” Smith said. “I will set a place at the table for everyone who was in the first movie who is still alive. Sadly, Alan [Rickman] and George [Carlin] won’t be able to join us, but I’ll set a place at the table for all of them. If they want to come back, they’ll have a role to play, but if not, no harm, no foul. The story I’m telling can definitely make use of everybody who is in Dogma, but I can also tell it without. So, that makes me pretty excited to go forward. It’s its own unique tale.“

Following up a beloved film with a belated sequel doesn’t always work out, but Smith feels that he’s got a winner on his hands, at least at this stage. “I feel very happy with it,” he said. “I can’t drop the ball on it. It’s like one of the last fing movies I ever made that’s beloved across the boards and shit like that. So, I would never step up to the plate unless I was like, ‘Oh, this will fing work nicely as a companion piece.’ So, I feel pretty great about it, man. But of course during the whimsy stage one always feels great about it. It’s when you make it and everyone sees it and they’re like, ‘Well, that f***ing sucks. You should have left well enough alone.’ You just hope it doesn’t come to that.” Hopefully not.

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[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Based on his recent movies ... no he didn't.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He found three roles in it for his daughter

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Shes not even that bad of an actress but why tf was he trying to launch anyone's career with a lukewarm dog turd like yoga hosers

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Hang on... disappointed by "Yoga Hosers"?

I got exactly what I expected from "Yoga Hosers".

It's not like Kevin Smith is out there demanding we sip wine while we watch, haha.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I kind of expected it to suck, and then it sucked. So I wasn't disappointed, I just thought it sucked.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

That's fair. Haha.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

No but he also constantly shits on clerks, but he knows exactly it's the best movue he ever made. "People like that movie? That's craaaazy" he's not trying to make bombs either, he wants to make money, not good movies. He kept saying how proud he was while editing the new jay and silent bob and how incredible and funny the movie was before it came out. It's honestly one of the worst movies i have seen, and i generally like bad funny movies. He wants nothing more than get into the disney money, that's why he can't say a bad thing about the new star wars movies, he praises them. Ready player one? One of the best movies ever according to him, because he can't upset steven Spielberg, because he might get a paycheck. He has no integrity and will never make a watchable movie again.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Also, Ready Player One is masterpiece!

...I should go add it to that thread of shitty movies I will defend.

I told you I have bad taste.

I will say, it was fun to see Spielberg do a faithful adaptation of a shitty little fun book into a shitty little fun movie.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Okay. Fuck it, this is the Internet. I'm gonna spend a few minutes as a Kevin Smith apologist, while I take a shit.

Please don't take any of this seriously, but I'll share it in case it helps you enjoy his films more.

I hope he's not murdering anyone while I type this up.

"People like that movie (Clerks)? That's craaaazy"

I think Kevin Smith has some crazy impostor syndrome.

Maybe I missed it, but i haven't seen him ungrateful at his success, just surprised.

And it's pretty normal to think one's own earlier work isn't as well done as ones own later work.

It's often wrong, but it's a pretty normal comfortable belief.

He wants nothing more than get into the disney money, that's why he can't say a bad thing about the new star wars movies, he praises them.

The only creative works I have ever seen Kevin Smith be critical of are his own. I take it as professionalism, and it fits his brand.

Kevin accomplished a lot for weed legalization, under the banner of "we should just let people enjoy things".

That slogan has become a big part of his public brand, and I don't blame him for sticking to it.

Now let's pause and admit that in this entire defense of Kevin Smith, I didn't actually really say anything nice about his movies.

I will say that I've thoroughly enjoyed all of Kevin Smiths movies.

Sadly, by many people's standards, I still haven't said anything nice about his movies. It's pretty easy to verify that I have bad taste in movies.

Bout to break the X button on my controller.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

If we get to see modern day Salma Hayek doing another bar dance scene, I'd say it was all worth it, no matter how much it sucks.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Check out From Dusk til Dawn for another, "Selma Hayek dancing sexily on bars/tables for some reason" scene

[–] thejoker954@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'd like to give an honorary shout out to the From Dusk til Dawn series.

No Selma, but still offers quite the feast for the eyes while actually being an enjoyable remake of the movie.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Haven't seen it... But if it doesn't have a dick gun, I'm out.

[–] thejoker954@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

It actually does lol.

[–] LadyButterfly@lazysoci.al 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

🫡

It's a decent movie too... Starring George Clooney and Quentin Tarantino. Yes you read that correctly lol. I think he also wrote the screenplay, and shocker, it involves his character getting very up close and personal with Selma Hayek's feet lol

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

She's definitely still capable.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 2 points 2 days ago

With great power comes great responsibility

[–] Ilixtze@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd be down for a sequel of Dogma where it turns out the book of Mormon was also real and the Catholics duke it out with the Invaders from planet Kolob that have superpowers by virtue of magic underwear!

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 2 points 2 days ago

You know what? I’d be down for that too!

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Now here's a man who will drag every great thing he's done through the mud over and over to squeeze every last dollar out of it.

Edit: in fairness I have to say that he had the moral fortitude to not touch Dogma as long as Weinstein still had the rights. Hence why we are getting this article now. So obviously the above statement is a bit of a broad generalization. But good god, look what he did to Clerks.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

Kevin Smith is the world's biggest whore

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

No, there should not be a sequel to Dogma. It is a self contained story.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 12 hours ago

Dogma will still be as it is. Enjoy the new movie or not, the old stuff remains the same unless your director is the kind to update their old films, but that's not common

[–] Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Christianity in general and catholicism especially has enough weirdness in its believes and systemic problems to produce hundred dogma movies and none would be to have a sequel in a literal sense.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

When dealing with myths, legends, and fairytales, one can invent whatever storyline suits them. What determines its success is how interesting those stories are.

Tell whatever fantastical story you please, as long as you make it interesting.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago

Gotta mine that IP!

[–] Ghostwurm@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

Back to the well for another bucket of slop

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

And Carlin?

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

If it's cracked I hope they can put it back together again

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

The member of the film actors guild?