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[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Corporate democrats #1 policy: protect the 1% at all costs

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"A lot of the people are saying it was Joe Biden's fault that Kamala Harris lost the election … not true. It was the fault of Kamala Harris and her consultants,"

Full clip here

He also said "I ran all over the country to try to elect her" so it's a pretty longshot from these comments claiming both sides bad. If all of you, everyone eligible to vote in 2024, had listened to Bernie Sanders then Kamala Harris would be president and none of this would have happened.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't have a ton of confidence the working class would choose someone who did choose them. Bernie is that candidate, and shenanigans aside from the dem primary, he didn't swing a landslide.

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[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Billionaires chose Trump, so Trump won. That's how US politics works

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[–] MetalMachine 27 points 1 week ago (14 children)

She failed to differentiate herself from biden in many different ways. One of which was her stance on genocide. Less people generally came out and voted for her in part due to these factors

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Lol Americans didn't stay home for gaza, most Americans didn't give a shit about that.

It was always about the cost of living. The average Democratic voter mindset is: "I voted Biden last time and nothing changed except food got more expensive, why bother voting"

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[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Cuz they all went to billionaire schools that tells them support billionaires and the economy will be good.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I never felt Harris actually stood for anything. This is easily the first election where I felt all the decisions made by the DNC were hard wrong - and I already thought the DNC fucked everything up when the turned on Sanders - but this time they really chose every bad option they could. A senior citizen that was absolutely having problems (outside the debate performance) and choosing an inclusivity* candidate that really had a checkered past of making climbing the ladder a priority while having no real policy gains or stances. Even in the lead up to everything, the other candidates were all but brushed aside. No real debate over policy or where the country was going.

She said whatever middle of the road thing needed to be said to appeal to enough people while leveling mealy criticism at best for the real problems, from Israel’s shitty war to attacks worker’s right in the US. We went from a candidate that should have never run again to a candidate that hadn’t given anyone a reason to want her to run at all at the last minute. And that’s awful, especially to lose against trump.

  • I hate to even say it, but the fact is that the DNC wanted to run a black female. They banked on the (I can’t think of the word/name for it - people who want to do things for a minority community, but do so cluelessly, remove agency of the group, disregard the actual needs and culture of the group. Usually modestly wealthy white people making “programs” for minority communities) people to vote for the feel-good of voting a minority person up while not actually thinking that people would have needs and policy concerns that would influence their vote, or their willingness to vote at all. The DNC already had “protect the rich white people” as a top priority. They didn’t think people were smart enough to sense that, and everyone really had a feeling that the Democrats didn’t care about them anymore.

Edit: found it. It’s “white saviorism” or “white savior complex.”

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[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I see a lot of these postmortems and I don't know what combination of them is the actual truth, but I wasn't the slightest bit surprised when she lost. As soon as she got the nomination I thought it was likely.

For what it's worth, here is my take on her as one Californian that's had to deal with her since before 2010 when she ran for attorney general:

  • Even before she ran for attorney general, I was constantly hearing about all kinds of awful stuff the SF district attorney's office was doing under her leadership even though I'm not from SF county.
  • I was very disappointed when she got the nomination for attorney general because I didn't want her policies applied statewide. I voted against her in the primary but of course I held my nose and voted for her over the R in the general.
  • I don't recall who I voted for in the 2016 primary for Senate but it wasn't her, or blue dog Sanchez. I think I barely tilted toward Sanchez in the general but I honestly can't remember. I was so disappointed in those choices that I didn't really give a shit. I thought we could do better in California than two conserva-dems, especially with the top-2 primary system.
  • Never even considered voting for that cop in a presidential primary.
  • Didn't like that she was the bottom of the ticket in 2020 especially considering Biden's age, but the alternative was clear.
  • Of course, due to the alternative I voted for her in 2024 but without one iota of enthusiasm. I think I may have been more enthused to vote for John fucking Kerry, but that was a long time ago, it's hard to remember my feelings for a block of wood.

A small silver lining to her losing is I'll never have to hold my nose and vote for her ever again.

She lost because she just sucks. Whether an individual's reason for thinking she sucks and not being excited about her was based on misogyny, racism, her record of public service, her policy goals, or her personality doesn't matter. I didn't know anybody excited to vote for her. I knew some people excited to vote for a WOC, but not her as a person. A little enthusiasm was what was needed to turn the tide in the three states that mattered this time.

As soon as Biden dropped out too late for an actual primary, we already lost.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

She tried to dance to the middle when Trump had a stranglehold on his cult of voters. Really stupid.

[–] ganryuzt@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The middle? She was cavorting with Liz Cheney!

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[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If Bernie would've been warning about this in 2023, he would've been called red fash.

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[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

i hate the dnc but my perspective is mostly dont vote for the fascist

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[–] whaleiam@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

And wow Bernie is right again.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Yeah, but Trump does the same. Kamala had better taxes planned for the working class and the poor. Trump also has a very poor track record. You can blame Kamala for not doing it right, but imo the issue is mass disinformation and people being extremily dumb.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And Bernie would be right. I hope to god that Kamala sits out the next election.

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