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[–] smeg@feddit.uk 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Passwords? A relic, and an insecure one at that.

instead of scanning your face (which can be spoofed) or fingerprints (which can be copied), these systems scan the ‘pattern’ of the veins running inside your palm – something that’s unique to you, and absolutely can’t be faked.

Consider me sceptical.

[–] xylol@leminal.space 21 points 2 weeks ago

If something could read them then I'm sure something can take that and copy it

[–] lucullus@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A few years ago I saw a talk how some hackers where able to fool arm vein scanners. I think it was a talk on the chaos communication congress

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Was it done in such way it could just as easy to fool multiple scanners at the same time? As in scanning eye, finger and palm at the same time. Though I wonder how expensive/difficult/error prone it would be to implement something like that.

[–] lucullus@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, it was only focused on that one biometric. You can always just add another for security, though it is good to keep in mind, that bionetrics aren't necessarily as secure as they are often marketed as. Fun fact: In the science fiction book "Qualityland" by Marc-Uwe Kling one biometric after another was shown to be insecure, leading to the people having do kiss their tablets/phones for authorizing money transfers, using OneKiss(TM), which is so more secure than other ways of authentication (trust me bro).

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

1000055855

Marc-UwU Kling

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why do people assume that a new biometric is more secure than the ones already in use? In all cases, an authority figure only has to knock you out and they have all the access they need.

Even Spaceballs shows just how easy this is to defeat.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tbf, it also shows that a large amount of people will use extremely weak passwords. Also on their luggage!

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

It does sound like something an idiot would do!

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I remember hearing about palm veins a decade ago, what makes this boom different?

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

I was curious, so I had to look it up. Turns out, Aristotle found and already written treatise on the idea of palm reading... I know it's not exactly palm "finger" printing, but even our ancestors knew palms were unique.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmistry

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 11 points 2 weeks ago

Hello dear Passwords.

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My voice is my passport, verify me.

[–] TheGibberishGuy@beehaw.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Welp, I know what I'm replaying this weekend.

(On second thought I don't know if you're quoting the game Uplink, or Sneakers. Both are good)

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't expect other people to understand this but I do expect you to understand this. We started this journey together.

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

The young lady with the uzi…Is she single?

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 8 points 2 weeks ago
[–] RobotZap10000 8 points 2 weeks ago

But how does this compete against the Verification Can™?

[–] MacStache@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Great until you lose your arm in an arms race or something. Locked out of your own home, armless. Lost the race, arm and home.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

Palm biometrics is less worse because you have the option not to give in to biometrics, unlike facial biometrics that there is no option not to give in