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[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 18 points 3 hours ago

And it will mean exactly nothing. Just like the last two? three? times.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 20 points 3 hours ago

Impeaching the president while his party holds every office is like asking a football team to vote on their own penalty calls. Flag on the play! The referee is asking the violating team ... no, they all agree that no penalty has taken place, the game resumes.

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 5 points 3 hours ago

Heh, let's see The Orange Idiot wriggle himself out of this mess. smuglord

[–] Whateley@lemm.ee 8 points 3 hours ago

BRB, I'm going to go throw plastic spoons at a police APC until it blows up.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 31 points 5 hours ago

Republicans in Congress are traitors to the United States of America, so this won't go anywhere. Still worth getting on the books though.

[–] shath@hexbear.net 11 points 4 hours ago
[–] SoloboiNanook@hexbear.net 12 points 4 hours ago

They gonna get him this time for sure. It's freaking over!!

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Remind me again how well that worked last time.

[–] PaulBunyan@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Would you rather they never try and be fully complacent with this?

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 11 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I would rather they try something that actually has a chance of working.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 38 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

Oh no! Hasn’t he been impeached twice already? Like, what other conclusion can society draw but “impeachment is entirely theatre”?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 45 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Congress has an obligation to impeach presidents that break the law. Its like a cop should still arrest a criminal even if the mob boss can get them off and back on the street in hours.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 4 points 1 hour ago

Or what? What happens if congress doesn't remove him? There is zero reason for the Republicans to go along with this since Trump is giving them everything they want

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago

I mean it's pretty much all they an do unless Americans want to exercise their 2nd Amendment right as it was intended.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Put him in a bigger peach this time so he can't get out

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

I think you’re mistaking it for inpeachment.

[–] danny801@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Oh well, better not do anything at all then. Clown.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Clown?! How dare you!

I’m not saying don’t do anything. I’m saying impeachment is theatre to appease people like you who apparently still believe it’s worth the time and effort of people who could otherwise be perusing actual solutions but won’t because, since it’s still not obvious, neither left nor right gives quite enough of a fuck about you to bother. Yet, anyway.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

What other solutions do these specific people have? Impeachment is the tool afforded them by their office for this problem. Sure, other people should be doing additional things, but what exactly does the impeachment process prevent these specific people from doing?

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Someday the public will realise that impeachment isn't the actual removal of someone from office, and in fact (AFAIK) there really isn't a mechanism in place to do that other than shaming them till they quit of their own accord or imprisonment (and technically they could still perform their job from a cell)

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The House can impeach and the Senate takes that impeachment and decides if to remove from office. So there is a mechanism, but it doesn't work so well when one major party is so far up the presidents ass they would never vote to remove

We do need another failsafe mechanism, perhaps a way for the people to remove a president from office

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 hours ago

"No confidence" voting would be great too, but at this point I'm not convinced it wouldn't result in the same problem with the MAGA cult astroturfing the fuck out of every vote.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago

Democrats, December 2019: "Impeached! It's now officially on record that this crap won't stand!"

Democrats, January 13, 2021: "Impeached! Insurrection? Are you fucking kidding us?! We are officially on record again that this just won't stand!"

Democrats, May 2025: "Alright, that's it. We didn't want to have to do this, but I think we might just have to go on record again… Let the record show that all this gestures wildly everywhere is straight-up terrible, and it won't stand!"

[–] don@lemm.ee 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

However, few Democrats have voiced support for impeaching Trump since he returned to office in January since measures are unlikely to go anywhere with Republicans in control of both the House and Senate. Trump was impeached twice during his first term in office, but was acquitted by the Senate in both cases.

They aren’t called “Do Nothing Democrats” for no reason.

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I mean they physically can't do anything right now, that's what happens when you remove them from every lever of power and Republicans are left to police themselves.

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I must be imagining something other than what actually happened every time republicans were in the minority. Because I swear they had done anything and everything to prevent any sort of progressive legislation, perpetuated elections being compromised without basis, and controlled their narrative past the storming of the capitol, while not being in the majority. Or did I dream all that?

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

The last times Dems had this level of control was from 2009 - 2011.

I'll assume what you're referring to is during Joe Biden's time in office where the did not have an effective majority as a single defector could block Congress.

On the opening day of the One Hundred Seventeenth Congress, the U.S. Senate was comprised of 51 Republicans, 46 Democrats, 2 Independents (who caucused with the Democrats), and 1 vacancy. No candidate received a majority of votes in the general election for Georgia's class 2 seat or in the special election for Georgia's class 3 seat. Runoff elections for both of the state's Senate seats were scheduled for January 5, 2021. Democratic candidates won both elections. Following the inauguration of Vice President Kamala D. Harris on January 20, 2021, the Senate had a Democratic majority, comprised of 50 Republicans, 48 Democrats, and 2 Independents (who caucus with the Democrats). The Vice President is able to cast tie-breaking votes in the Senate. See United States Senate, "Party Division,"

https://history.house.gov/Institution/Presidents-Coinciding/Party-Government/

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think you misunderstand me, what I am rhetorically asking is why Democrats are seemingly incapable of manufacturing the same discontent for their own purposes. Obviously not looking up to the republicans, however tried and true their playbook is, but the dems have been outwardly afraid of critisizing their own even when there's any given political or moral imperative. See: Biden stepping down at the last convieveable moment, thus not conducting primary elections even when he initially ran for one term.

On the contrary, see: "RHINOs", to an almost militant capacity they rooted out any potential adversaries in their own party to further their aganeda, simutaniously feeding narratives of party righteousness and locking in the rhetoric to their base of support. The dems couldn't be bothered to ecen try to co-opt the most vocal advocacy groups in their favor.

Now my opinion, it's too late for a hypothetical playbook to correct this trajectory. I believe that justice and liberty as under the constitution should not be entriely beholden to institutions that have demonstrably rolled over in their duties. And I think Dems hold such an accountability that is not in anyway equal to the damage being conducted by republicans, but by giving a voice to the "DINOs" like John Fetterman who in a heartbeat are willing to betray their party's principles, they perpetuate what the opposition wants.

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

Okay we agree, I misunderstood.

[–] Asafum 25 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Incoming: all Republicans and at least 2/3 of Democrats vote not to impeach.

The democrats will yet again shoot themselves in the foot with this one especially if they vote not to impeach. It sends a clear signal that everything the administration is doing is Totally Cool and Legal™©®

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

All according to plan

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 6 points 5 hours ago

Wake me up when he's removed from office

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 18 points 6 hours ago

Won't matter, won't change anything or cause so much as a held fart by the fat orange fuck.

Until apathetic Americans get off their asses and vote in primaries, local elections and general elections that aren't just about president.

Local elections impact who's a judge, impact who's a state house or senator -- those are who determine state laws -- including participation in the NPVIC -- as well as Board of Education members banning your books.

Primaries are where you pick who's the good candidate for the general.

Are you sick of the trash candidates, are you sick of Chucky giving stern looks at most to push back against fascist agendas? It's the primary.

It's the local elections that determine districts. It's the small local elections and state elections that either enable or fight gerrymandering.

Stop bitching about how things are and take action.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 9 points 5 hours ago

This time I am sure it will stop him. /s

[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago

If this leads anywhere please ping me.

Unless this is bipartisan I don't give a fuck since it won't matter