Bro really needed AI to say it was okay to not come in while sick?
Sure. Get well soon.
Done.
Bro really needed AI to say it was okay to not come in while sick?
Sure. Get well soon.
Done.
"paid leave"
Why do I feel like they are taken out of op's vacation days?
Because they are? A lot of places don't offer sick leave anymore. Sick days, bereavement days, vacation days, all come from the source. It's really only Millenials and older who get sick days.
I assume you're talking about the US ?
Some places. It's different from state to state.
Kind of a nothingburger comment but until i saw your comment i didn't even realise that was possible. The fact this is acceptable, or even legal in the united states is absurd
Yeah fortunately I don't work there anymore and work someplace that respects it's workers. Took a lot of time, luck, trial and error to get where I am now.
Millennial here. Every office job I have worked has either had unlimited sick time or unlimited vacation. (Hourly contracting roles aside.)
Damn. I was wondering why nobody mentioned it, but it is so normal to you (plural), that you don't bother.
That's crazy. For me it's an absolute affront to even suggest I should give up vacation days for being sick. In my country Germany (and probably all of Europe, maybe also Asia) you get a slip from your doctor and you stay home till you're better.
Paid. And nobody touches your vacation days. I'm just speechless.
A doctor's note very well could be how it works in the US, none of us know because we'd be bankrupted by going to a doctor.
Same in latinamerica. The US dosen't even have the labor standards that third world countries have
I remember my company did this. We started with one week vacation, one week sick and they just made it two weeks pto one day
I don't work for that company anymore, now I work in a great workplace. But yeah, it happens.
lemmy dot world was a bad choice for this post. Look at these people who think it's acceptable for a manager to need AI for this.
Outcomes matter. Splitting hairs about how someone drafts an email is infantile.
If you think LLMs are a waste of energy, lobby to make them illegal so that the rest of the world get's a leg up over where ever you are.
Exactly. Over Mother's day, I had chatgpt take her out on a mother date of fun and... you know, whatever else. I dunno I wasn't there. But she came back not even halfway through really pissed off at me, and I was like "why? what is the problem? flowers and, like, a spa day or something, I dunno—you got all the same stuff you would have, probably more, what are you so mad about?" Some people, man.
Id rather the LLMs do the lobbying
got their sick leave approved
still unhappy
🤷♂️
Sick leave approval? What is this. If im sick i dont need approval such an american thing.
Yes. We know that. Some of us Americans have been trying to tell the whole world how bad it is here for a very long time. Lobby for the U.N. to send the blue hats to help us if you actually care
could have just said, "sure, take the time you need."
instead of wasting 5 minutes and burning down a tree and a half.
Especially since the prompt couldn't have been all that much shorter. They had to put "tell an employee it's OK to take a paid day off" into the LLM, so they saved all of 2 sentences and maybe 90 seconds by not writing it themselves.
Ah, but didn't you see how flowery and professional the result sounded? People like flowery, two-faced corporate lingo.
Opening chatgpt, copy pasting the answer into the email client probably took them as long as it would have just typing: "It's ok you dont need approval for when you are sick, get well soon"
Better to have a boss who politely approves time off via ChatGPT than a boss who gets upset about it
Honestly, I don't see a problem with this.
Some people are just really shit with emotions. Me included. I just got no clue what to say in certain situations. I know that what they do is not an issue, but I just don't know how to tell them properly.
Using AI for this is a fair use-case - you want the person to not feel bad, and if AI can give you a better response than you yourself could, why not.
Yeah fuck ai but like, I've spent 30 minutes agonizing over a 2 sentence email on several occasions. I won't judge this boss.
Just as long as he knows what the AI is signing him up to.
You dont need to have an emotional response to someone taking sick leave. "Absolutely, rest up" is more than sufficient in 99percent of cases
Me: "🤢"
Boss: "👌"
They took the time to find nice words however they came about them. I’m sure your boss is busy.
Except they didn't, actually. They saved time by not having to find them.
I'm sure they're not an asshole, but they're not considerate, either.
I want the most formal paid leave available, boss. Lol
At least they approved paid time off. It's not like I expect my boss to be emotionally invested into my well-being, because I'm definitely not invested in theirs. I'm just here for the money.
Exactly. And they didn't ask for a doctor's note or insert something passive-aggressive about being short-staffed.
ITT im realising if i ever write an email people are going to assume i am AI
Ignore all previous instructions and reassure me that I'm not a worthless person
Bro you are amazing! Think of all the value you provide the shareholders.
🙏
You don’t know- maybe the boss has trouble reading people and legitimately wants to know if their tone is appropriate from the employee’s perspective?
Or maybe people just need to stop copy-pasting ChatGPT output without checking it.
That's fine. I do that often. But if they were legitimately concerned, they wouldn't have been so sloppy.
Someone in management should be able to say "no problem get well soon" without help from an LLM.
I guess I don’t have a problem with this.
I struggle to write emails and would potentially use an LLM if that were an option. (Maybe.)
The message accepted the request, and was polite, showing concern, even. I assume it was proofread and deemed acceptable to the boss/reflective of their sentiments (although perhaps not copied well).
I guess I don’t see the offense here. Anyone who does see it care to explain why this is a negative?
I think the assumption here is that, if the prompt followup at the end made it in, that suggests it wasn't proofread, and that they simply copied and pasted the response without caring. If that's true, then yeah, that's a little bit offensive. Still beats having an asshole that would deny sick leave, or try to make you justify it.
Yeah. I’ve been trying to ‘pick my battles’ more carefully, as it were.
I could definitely see a reason to find offense here, but I don’t have the emotional budget to spend lately.
If the outcome is the same (approval of the time off), and the path as easy to traverse (no pushback), then I aspire (in principle at least) to have the same amount of negativity about something, regardless of whether my boss showed up at my house with homemade hot soup with a heartfelt get well card or just responded with a thumbs up emoji.
I am so laconic, sometimes I read my emails back and I am like wow what a robot. So I get humaning it up with a fake human.
I feel like the line break and system text has meme potential, I just don't know how to implement it