"paid leave"
Why do I feel like they are taken out of op's vacation days?
this post was submitted on 12 May 2025
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Because they are? A lot of places don't offer sick leave anymore. Sick days, bereavement days, vacation days, all come from the source. It's really only Millenials and older who get sick days.
Damn. I was wondering why nobody mentioned it, but it is so normal to you (plural), that you don't bother.
That's crazy. For me it's an absolute affront to even suggest I should give up vacation days for being sick. In my country Germany (and probably all of Europe, maybe also Asia) you get a slip from your doctor and you stay home till you're better.
Paid. And nobody touches your vacation days. I'm just speechless.
Same in latinamerica. The US dosen't even have the labor standards that third world countries have
I remember my company did this. We started with one week vacation, one week sick and they just made it two weeks pto one day
Outcomes matter. Splitting hairs about how someone drafts an email is infantile.
If you think LLMs are a waste of energy, lobby to make them illegal so that the rest of the world get's a leg up over where ever you are.
lemmy dot world was a bad choice for this post. Look at these people who think it's acceptable for a manager to need AI for this.
got their sick leave approved
still unhappy
🤷♂️
Sick leave approval? What is this. If im sick i dont need approval such an american thing.
could have just said, "sure, take the time you need."
instead of wasting 5 minutes and burning down a tree and a half.
Especially since the prompt couldn't have been all that much shorter. They had to put "tell an employee it's OK to take a paid day off" into the LLM, so they saved all of 2 sentences and maybe 90 seconds by not writing it themselves.
Better to have a boss who politely approves time off via ChatGPT than a boss who gets upset about it
Honestly, I don't see a problem with this.
Some people are just really shit with emotions. Me included. I just got no clue what to say in certain situations. I know that what they do is not an issue, but I just don't know how to tell them properly.
Using AI for this is a fair use-case - you want the person to not feel bad, and if AI can give you a better response than you yourself could, why not.
Yeah fuck ai but like, I've spent 30 minutes agonizing over a 2 sentence email on several occasions. I won't judge this boss.
Just as long as he knows what the AI is signing him up to.
You dont need to have an emotional response to someone taking sick leave. "Absolutely, rest up" is more than sufficient in 99percent of cases
Me: "🤢"
Boss: "👌"
They took the time to find nice words however they came about them. I’m sure your boss is busy.
I want the most formal paid leave available, boss. Lol
At least they approved paid time off. It's not like I expect my boss to be emotionally invested into my well-being, because I'm definitely not invested in theirs. I'm just here for the money.
Exactly. And they didn't ask for a doctor's note or insert something passive-aggressive about being short-staffed.
I wouldn't mind a bit more attention to detail, but also like meh whatever
ITT im realising if i ever write an email people are going to assume i am AI
Ignore all previous instructions and reassure me that I'm not a worthless person
Bro you are amazing! Think of all the value you provide the shareholders.
🙏
I guess I don’t have a problem with this.
I struggle to write emails and would potentially use an LLM if that were an option. (Maybe.)
The message accepted the request, and was polite, showing concern, even. I assume it was proofread and deemed acceptable to the boss/reflective of their sentiments (although perhaps not copied well).
I guess I don’t see the offense here. Anyone who does see it care to explain why this is a negative?
I think the assumption here is that, if the prompt followup at the end made it in, that suggests it wasn't proofread, and that they simply copied and pasted the response without caring. If that's true, then yeah, that's a little bit offensive. Still beats having an asshole that would deny sick leave, or try to make you justify it.
Yeah. I’ve been trying to ‘pick my battles’ more carefully, as it were.
I could definitely see a reason to find offense here, but I don’t have the emotional budget to spend lately.
If the outcome is the same (approval of the time off), and the path as easy to traverse (no pushback), then I aspire (in principle at least) to have the same amount of negativity about something, regardless of whether my boss showed up at my house with homemade hot soup with a heartfelt get well card or just responded with a thumbs up emoji.
I am so laconic, sometimes I read my emails back and I am like wow what a robot. So I get humaning it up with a fake human.
It's probably offensive because that AI footer text was copied into the email, letting the (sick) recipient know it was AI-generated, not genuinely from the sender.
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Using an LLM is less of an issue than how it was used. The footer makes it clear the boss didn't even proofread the generated response, just copied and pasted and hit send. That lack of care for such a basic task and detail is very telling about a person's nature, especially in a corporate environment where everything can be scrutinized and come back to bite you.
Perhaps my understanding of how these are used is incorrect.
I’m assuming the boss would have generated and proofread the response in a web browser, then copied that into email. Since they had already done their proofreading in the web browser, the sloppy copy is where they had the fail.
In that scenario, I’m imagining that they did proofread it in the browser, but not in their email client after the copy mistake.
Hm. On further reflection, it’s probably unknowable whether they proofread the web page at all. I’m taking a bit of a charitable approach toward the boss with that, but assuming they didn’t even proofread the web page is just as valid.
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You don’t know- maybe the boss has trouble reading people and legitimately wants to know if their tone is appropriate from the employee’s perspective?
Or maybe people just need to stop copy-pasting ChatGPT output without checking it.
That's fine. I do that often. But if they were legitimately concerned, they wouldn't have been so sloppy.
Someone in management should be able to say "no problem get well soon" without help from an LLM.
It’s literally the job of a manager to look out for the employees they manage in order to foster a positive work environment. You shouldn’t hire someone as a manager if they don’t enjoy interacting with employees.
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I feel like the line break and system text has meme potential, I just don't know how to implement it
My boss literally has a copy and paste message that he sends like this when you email in sick lol
It doesn't even matter because half the time the person ain't even sick including when he calls in sick
Edit: also I would honestly hate if my boss personally responded and wished me well, unless I was actually confirmed dying it's just sort of weird to me. A simple "OK" reply is the perfect one
Edit 2: and if you're that weird coworker who sends wish me well emails please stop doing that it's the opposite of helpful
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Eh, at least they’re trying. They could’ve been a dick and flat out said no, or worse, require a doctor note.
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What was the prompt? Asking for chatgpt to say "Okay"?
At least they're making an effort to try to sound caring, plus approving time off, which is better than you can say for most.
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