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[–] SeeingRed@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Profit over functionality aside, one thing that can make Google slightly more tolerable is to switch it into "web search" mode. This strips away all the AI crap, sponsored links, etc. apparently there are ways you can set it to be the default. I find I use Google less and less anyway, but it's a good option when the first page is useless garbage.

The number of times the Google AI summary has either outright lied or given me some horrible hallucinated approximation of an answer is disgusting. Asking it anything remotely complicated, technical, or uncommonly searched gives the most egregious results. It's to the point that I question anything it says, which means it's truely useless. At best, I read a few lines, see if the information seems relevant, then I click on its source links, often to find that the information stated just isn't at those links.

[–] Sal@mander.xyz 2 points 6 hours ago

I have no love for google, but this can easily be misinterpreted. Within the screenshot, there are two mentions about studies. The first one refers to Google's internal studies that were disclosed to the courts, and the second one refers to an independent study from WalletHub. By cropping the text in this way it is easy for someone to conclude that the referenced study in the final paragraph is Google's internal study (at least that is how I read it), but it is not.

The antitrust case claims about the internal studies are found in page 48 of 1:20-cv-03010-APM.

Here is the screenshot:

The source documents can be found in the trial exhibits. Unfortunately, the specific internal tests are referenced as UPX1082, and this document does not appear to publicly released.

One can look at this combined information and reach the conclusion that Google is actively decreasing the quality of results to keep users longer. But it is still that, forming an opinion based on some available evidence, not a proven assertion.

[–] NikkiB@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The "I love capitalism because it makes consumer products and tools more efficient, useful, and affordable" crowd is going to have a hard time explaining this one.

[–] stinky7@hexbear.net 11 points 11 hours ago

"just vote with your wallet and use ~~chrome~~ ~~edge~~ firefox! can't do that in communism!"

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

I remember when just 'browsing' the internet (google) was a pass time. Like you could just search random things into google and find something interesting or novel. The earliest iterations of google basically functioned exactly how you'd want a search engine to and needed zero improvement. we really do live in a fucked world where a technology or service can be perfected but inevitably made worse over time to the benefit of no one but the top

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Google has also become extremely censored, like to an absurd degree. Search anything on a remotely political current topic and all you will get is pure propaganda from western media, governments and think tanks. It is virtually impossible to find anything else. They just won't show it to you. You have to use Yandex.

[–] Eiren@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

That's if you get anything at all. A lot of my searches return no results on Google or derivatives, so I have to use Bing, Yandex, or others instead.

They do return a large number of results on all of those.

[–] WizardOfLoneliness@hexbear.net 10 points 11 hours ago

15 years ago i could type a half remembered thought into google and find exactly what I wanted to find and it got 20% worse every year from then until now

[–] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, now it's all SEO and AI slop. At least Yandex helps you with pirating shit lmao

[–] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 12 hours ago

AI is especially bad because as useful as it can be what happens when it's just wrong information? I hate when lies are presented as fact

[–] RedColossus@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Reminds me of how they shut down the incredibly successful Vine (short form video) because they figured they’d make more money with Periscope (very long form video). Despite literally nobody wanting it.

These tech bros live in a deluded bubble with no understanding on what average people want.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 2 points 4 hours ago

Hilarious it was immediately replaced by TikTok. The niche was there and was on the verge of blowing up, but they thought short videos weren't wanted.

[–] luchuan@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I really wonder what goes through the heads of people designing these awful experiences when they do so and how nihilistic you have be be in experiment review just view the world in pure metrics and sign off.

[–] NikkiB@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 12 hours ago

They're thinking "my boss is gonna be impressed when they see this."

[–] burlemarx@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The feeling that your job is shit, since your manager is pushing that shit feature to appease the corporate execs who doesn't care about your personal opinion, but you have to do it because it pays your bills, and your family depends on you. At least until you find another job with decent pay.

We live in capitalism, so we workers are alienated from the products of our labor.

[–] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 12 hours ago

I think there's new disclosure cause of the antitrust case.